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The more valuable part was the technology transfer.
Says what? > "Without European technology, the Chinese navy would not be able to move." You really think China couldn't buy tech from eg. Russia to make their "fleet move"? What was the tech? Why was it that important?
https://www.businessinsider.com/tug-sailing-with-russian-shi...
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TSMC reportedly uses over 50 million tonnes of water per year, which is a drop in the bucket compared to the annual 12 billion tonnes consumed by agriculture. https://highscope.ch.ntu.edu.tw/wordpress/?p=42837 In any case, the current drought is likely to ease at some point but the electricity problem is only going to get worse.
Are those numbers really comparable? Agriculture can use more or less any kind of water, can handle sporadic supply and is spread over a wide area. Fabs need very large quantities of highly purified water in very small high density locations and it's an industrial facility so can't handle interruptions well. It could easily be that there's a shortage of water affecting fabs whilst agriculture is fine.
NYT has a pretty good piece of reporting about the situation:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/tech...
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China's treatment of HK was supposed to be regulated by a treaty with the UK - but as you point out it was under the sovereignty of China. That's pretty different to Taiwan which has never been under the sovereignty of China.
> That's pretty different to Taiwan which has never been under the sovereignty of China. You see, if China agreed with your statement diplomacy would be a lot easier. But few things anger the Chinese more than asserting that it does not have sovereignty over Taiwan, the only other one I can think of is that Tibet should be free to be its own country.
But Taiwan has a functional, large military, friends in Washington and economic consequences to an invasion.
HK had umbrellas and a few strongly worded newspaper columns.
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> If I remember correctly, ones Rupert Murdoch famously said that it’s impossible to find a phone number to call. Do the HN rules of assuming good faith apply to him as well? /s https://europa.eu/european-union/contact/call-us_en Please don't signal boost easily falsifiable claims like this. The function of it is to sow division and prevent proper nuanced discussion.
>Please don't signal boost easily falsifiable claims like this. The function of it is to sow division and prevent proper nuanced discussion. The phone numbers on that page is a hotline for general questions. It is absolutely not the same thing as the point mrtksn's Murdoch quote mentioned. A media magnate like Murdoch has the phone number to the White House central switchboard and can get the President on the phone.…
If you think this is a good thing this entire discussion is futile.
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>compete with TSMC and other western chip factories Is TSMC is a western company?
When talking about "spheres of influence" China (and Russia) are seen as not-Western while Japan/SK/Taiwan are seen as Western, due to the American military umbrella.
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Are those numbers really comparable? Agriculture can use more or less any kind of water, can handle sporadic supply and is spread over a wide area. Fabs need very large quantities of highly purified water in very small high density locations and it's an industrial facility so can't handle interruptions well. It could easily be that there's a shortage of water affecting fabs whilst agriculture is fine.
You are right that fabs require a much higher grade of water but the overall quantity is much less. Yet with farmers suffering the worst effect of the drought it is very difficult for TSMC to expand production without looking like the bad guy who profit at other people's expense. Notwithstanding the fact that the actual amount of water they use is not significant. NYT has a pretty good piece of reporting about the si…
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/08/technology/taiwan-drought...
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Please share the examples of the US “unilaterally invading” countries in Africa. I’m not aware of an example, but I’d love to learn something new. If you are using fuzzy rhetoric to refer to various forms of political interference (clandestine or otherwise, legal or otherwise)... I would agree. But then the comparison vs. China and other world powers gets a lot muddier. Even the comparison between world powers and lo…
You have misread the comment and mixed up two separate but undeniably true things: 1. "... USA involvement in toppling some governments here" - if we go by the 20th and 21st Centuries we have at least Egypt (1952), Angola (from 1975 onwards), Congo/Zaire (1960s, 1977, 1978, 1996) and most recently Libya (2011). 2. "A country I know for certain it has invaded unilaterally others (USA)" - so numerous and well known it'…
Chinas version of this includes forced communism, and a whole slew of lost freedoms as a result. When was the last time the US took away freedoms from an “elected” gov? Also who elected these govs? Free or forced citizens?
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Says what? > "Without European technology, the Chinese navy would not be able to move." You really think China couldn't buy tech from eg. Russia to make their "fleet move"? What was the tech? Why was it that important?
The Russians can't even make their own fleet move. https://www.businessinsider.com/tug-sailing-with-russian-shi...
Lack of money to maintain their army has been a recurring issue since the fall of the USSR.
My question still remains to have a realistic POV:
> What was the tech? Why was it that important?
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Your thinking has many curious gaps! e.g., I fail to see how "shortwave radios" would be particularly useful for the 20 minutes of "nuclear retaliation", Bitcoin transactions require networked computers which, again, won't be around w/o power/batteries, a working network, etc. Implementing the Haber-Bosch process requires very sophisticated engineering, machining and careful operation. Lots of trial and error is invo…
“Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” ― Mark Twain
Or it might be the guy who wrote http://canonical.org/%7Ekragen/sw/dev3/paperalgo, http://canonical.org/%7Ekragen/sw/urscheme/, http://canonical.org/~kragen/bytebeat/, https://github.com/kragen/dumpulse, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2933619, https://gitlab.com/kragen/bubbleos/blob/master/yeso, https://github.com/kragen/stoneknifeforth, and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=695981 in the past, and within the last three months wrote https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27171597, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26930408, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26884231, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26674832, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26672806, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26671656, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26654767, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26596892, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26587768, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26581742, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26561319, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26547871, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26543937, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26580684, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26528534, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26525837, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26525109, http://canonical.org/~kragen/sw/dev3/qvaders, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26452393, http://canonical.org/~kragen/sw/dev3/skitch, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26449902, http://canonical.org/~kragen/sw/dev3/meta5ixrun.py, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26438596, http://canonical.org/~kragen/sw/dev3/mukanren.ml, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26418271, http://canonical.org/~kragen/sw/dev3/kmregion.h, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26299172, http://canonical.org/~kragen/sw/dev3/readprint.fs, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26289195, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26219950, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26219000, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26198567, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26231940, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26189525, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26195060.
I'm not going to link to particular comments in https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=giardini (it would be too easy to think I was cherry-picking the worst ones) but you can read through it yourself and see that the guy has a long history of almost nothing but incessant worthless trolling.
If you can't tell the difference...
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> I fail to see how "shortwave radios" would be particularly useful for the 20 minutes of "nuclear retaliation", Correct, the fact that nuclear retaliation takes a few minutes, not months or years, means that your hypothetical disintegration scenario is irrelevant to my original point: in the event of a full-blown war between the USA and PRC, there will be no semiconductor fabs in the USA, foreign-owned or otherwise.…
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