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Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by defaultname »

Graffur wrote: post #235
defaultname wrote: post #169

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You don't use it, yet you are also an authority on what it is "full of". So much so that you're an observer of subreddits dedicated to lascivious TikTok content. I use Reddit and am blissfully unaware of such subs. As to "designed to be addictive", you are literally using that as a lazy, pejorative surrogate for "designed to be rewarding/enjoyable". Understand that almost every part of your life is "designed to be ad…

I have researched it thoroughly and understand how it works. That goes for other major sites too including facebook, instagram, whatsapp, reddit. I don't care that you use reddit and are unaware of what content is on it. I could not care less. The tik tok algorithm is designed to be addictive. It sounds like you agree but are trying to obscure that fact by throwing examples of other popular products.

Okay...

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by user-the-name »

Graffur wrote: post #236
efdee wrote: post #185

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So exactly how do you know what TikTok is full of, then?

I have had multiple accounts. I have researched how others use the platform. I have observed the content migrating from one platform to another. Are you arguing that tik tok is not full of girls in little clothing? Your argument is easily defeated.

Why does this bother you so much.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by Touche »

magicalhippo wrote: post #176
Touche wrote: post #140

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How do you find this stuff? YouTube is so full of absolute garbage that's it's a struggle to find something worth watching. I watch painting videos on YouTube but spend way too much time digging.

The algorithm mostly suggests stuff I enjoy watching. I suspect the key is to avoid like the plague to click on anything that's clearly "engagement bait", and to subscribe to stuff I enjoy. Some random examples that I really enjoy that I've stumbled over to thanks to the algorithm: https://www.youtube.com/user/todsstuff1/ https://www.youtube.com/user/Abom79/ https://www.youtube.com/c/ThomasFlight/ https://www.youtube…

The suggestions I get look good too but I'm rarely just looking for anything interesting to watch, I want to watch something specific.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by Touche »

atatatat wrote: post #174
Touche wrote: post #140

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How do you find this stuff? YouTube is so full of absolute garbage that's it's a struggle to find something worth watching. I watch painting videos on YouTube but spend way too much time digging.

Cooperate with the suggestions tools.

I searched for lawn care videos 2 years ago and still get suggestions in my feed. The videos might be great, but it's not a subject I want to watch. This is pretty common from what I see.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by Gibbon1 »

Touche wrote: post #244
atatatat wrote: post #174

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Cooperate with the suggestions tools.

I searched for lawn care videos 2 years ago and still get suggestions in my feed. The videos might be great, but it's not a subject I want to watch. This is pretty common from what I see.

Reminds me of two things. Searched for pressure cookers. For the next two years got ads for full figured bras everywhere. Made the mistake of looking for synthetic sapphires. Got ads directed at young engaged women for a year.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by wccrawford »

freebuju wrote: post #127
wccrawford wrote: post #120

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I've started to get annoyed by the ads for Raid Shadow Legends and Squarespace, and the product placement is getting nuts. I had someone the other day say they didn't think the tool was "sponsored" because the company lent it to them to try, in order to see if they'd use it enough to justify keeping it. Uh, yeah, that's totally sponsored, even if it's only lent. Some of my usual Youtube channels now have 1 or 2 big s…

Sucks that you cannot do away with ads even on premium. Might want to check if this sponsored-ads skip tool this can be of help in your circumstance https://github.com/ajayyy/SponsorBlock

Ooh, very interesting.

Unfortunately, I think my channels are one step ahead... They usually mix in interesting video in the background while they give their advertisement verbally. So I often can't really skip them without also skipping actual content.

But thanks for that!

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by wccrawford »

pmoriarty wrote: post #206
wccrawford wrote: post #120

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I've started to get annoyed by the ads for Raid Shadow Legends and Squarespace, and the product placement is getting nuts. I had someone the other day say they didn't think the tool was "sponsored" because the company lent it to them to try, in order to see if they'd use it enough to justify keeping it. Uh, yeah, that's totally sponsored, even if it's only lent. Some of my usual Youtube channels now have 1 or 2 big s…

"Some of my usual Youtube channels now have 1 or 2 big stop-the-show ads that are unrelated to their content" Using youtube-dl you can get the videos without ads.

I already pay for Youtube Premium, so the ads inserted by Youtube are already gone. These are ads that the content creator themselves are putting in the video.

A sibling comment has recommended a browser addon to skip them (thanks for crowdsourcing), but it has issues, too.

Thanks, though!

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by greggman3 »

Touche wrote: post #244
atatatat wrote: post #174

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Cooperate with the suggestions tools.

I searched for lawn care videos 2 years ago and still get suggestions in my feed. The videos might be great, but it's not a subject I want to watch. This is pretty common from what I see.

I curate? my feed? If it suggests something I detest I mark as "not interested".

If I'm confident the channel a video comes from is likely to have nothing I'm interested in I pick "never recommend anything from this channel" or whatever the option is.

If it's a video of something like say "washing machine repair" which I know won't need recommendations of later then I right click and "open in incognito window"

If after watching a video I don't think it will generate good recommendations I remove it from my history.

Recommendations are not perfect. 3 things that would help that I wish they'd do

1) let me choose to have music separate from none music. 20%+ of my recommendations being for music is a complete waste. I'd much rather to go some special site (music.youtube.com) or (youtube.com/music) then have them mixed in with video.

2) when I pick "not interested" -> "why" -> "already watched this video" then show it as watched (put the red line under it) just like "mark as read" in email

3) don't recommend videos I already watched (this goes along with both 1 and 2. I almost never rewatch videos unless they are music videos and I don't want music mixed in with videos so the fact the 10-15% of the recommendations are for videos I already watched is a complete waste of space and time

2b) fix the UX related to not-interested. A better UX would be letting just clicking the "..." and picking "already watched" instead of the 3 step process it is now. An even better UX would be a small icon

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by eumoria »

dang wrote: post #231
filleduchaos wrote: post #202

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so basically every major social media platform in existence (and quite a few of the more general tech ones too), except replace the CCP with the American government Honestly it's kinda fun watching Americans tangle with the "oh no this ubiquitous platform is controlled by a company beholden to a foreign power I disagree with but have no say in or control over!" conundrum for once.

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. We're trying for the opposite here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Absolutely, sorry about that.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by fragileone »

herpderperator wrote: post #42

I think part of TikTok's success is the fact that they have a public/guest browser platform[0] that doesn't restrict you from seeing content without an account. It means people who wouldn't usually have the mobile app can still be a part of the action, and that may eventually drive them to sign up. It's actually almost unbelievable that you can browse endlessly and never once be prompted to sign up unless you try to…

I highly recommend using FOSS frontends [1] to access these Instagram/Reddit/Twitter/etc, it's a far better experience being able to browse without all these annoyances.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27167924

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