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Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by ehsankia »

darkstar999 wrote: post #181
mujina93 wrote: post #89

Basically every comment here says positive things about tiktok. Is this a bot invasion on HN or is it really that good? The few times I tried it it gave me loads of crappy content. No thank you, I'm not in for another doom scrolling addiction. The world has already enough addictive dopamine-f**ing time-sucker almost contentless social medias. I don't have the energies to fight against or maniacally curate my feed for…

> The few times I tried it it gave me loads of crappy content Feed the algorithm. Like/comment/follow content you like and it shows you a lot of good stuff. It really works.

Even more so than like, your best tool is long press > not interested. Use that indiscriminately for a bit and you'll be in a much better place.

Yes, it's rough at first, but it's pretty amazing how it works after some time. I get really niche content like VSCode tips, Math proofs, tips on the later games I'm playing or even Hamilton+programming jokes.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by ehsankia »

Firebrand wrote: post #18

What’s really interesting about TikTok is that they’ve seem to have successfully taken making a fool of yourself on the internet (and out in public if you dance outside) mainstream. I have no idea what compels otherwise everyday people to post embarrassing and sometimes way too personal videos for potentially millions of people to laugh at but they do it. Of course, there are a lot of issues with the app itself, but…

> making a fool of yourself on the internet

That's exactly what early Youtube was. Remember Charlie bit my finger, David after Dentist? This kind of light hearted home videos, it used to be filled with that content, but now it's basically completely gone. TikTok is basically Youtube pre-monetization. Probably won't last but enjoying it while it lasts.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by dragonwriter »

Graffur wrote: post #119
buryat wrote: post #60

I have never seen so many to say "average" people on tiktok like on any other social platform, in a sense that I can relate to those people and don't feel like a celebrity is trying to feed me some content down my throat. There's so much of normalization of everything that I'm blown away by how normal Tiktok is, you can see teenagers struggling in a school, you can see people hating their 9-5 jobs, you can see crafts…

Tiktok is full of girls dancing with very little or very tight clothes on for likes and attention. It's really seedy. There's subreddits dedicated to posting about these accounts. On top of that it is designed to be addicting for the sake of addiction. It doesnt matter what the video is about once it will keep the user on the app. The algorithm will work out the perfect way for each person to be sucked in. We all kno…

> Tiktok is full of girls dancing with very little or very tight clothes on for likes and attention.

Even if that was true, so what? While the venue changes, that’s what bitter elders always complain about about youth culture, to the point where it being a recognized cliche is ancient.

> On top of that it is designed to be addicting for the sake of addiction.

All of social media (and most of the web, and much offline entertainment) is optimized around engagement, to the same extent. There’s nothing special about TikTok here.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by ehsankia »

drloser wrote: post #113

Protip: If you don't like what you see on TikTok, you need to press your screen a couple of seconds, then select "I'm not interested". It takes a couple of hours before the algorithm filters all the content you dislike. And when you see a lot of similar vidéos (a "trend"), use the "hide the videos with this song". Most of the time, all the videos from a trend use the same music. (I only have videos of dogs and DIY...…

My feed is programming jokes, math/science videos, Hamilton, lots of cats and sometimes very strange combinations of the above.

One impressive moment was, around when the new Animal Crossing came out, I immediately started getting a ton of AC content, almost half of my feed, and when I stopped playing, less than a week later I was basically not getting any at all.

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Post by andrepd »

cycomanic wrote: post #61
zerocrates wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instagram in particular seems to have gotten much more aggressive in not letting you view anything without an account. For whatever reason though businesses like restaurants and bars will often nominally "have" a wide range of social media accounts, Instagram is often the only one with actual content. I used to be able to reasonably use these but I now seem to get a wall requiring login immediately. It's possibly/pro…

I've been using teddit.net because reddit on mobile gas become unusable. Someone here pointed me to it.

On mobile I still use i.reddit.com

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by rnotaro »

TchoBeer wrote: post #208
3nt3 wrote: post #199

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You can have up to 60 seconds and just upload multiple parts. Sure, this isn't the most nuanced approach but it kind of works.

Can you? I haven't used the site in quite a while, have they changed things?

The even started to roll-out 3 minutes TikToks to some creators. But the fact that you can't go seek into the video make them quite annoying to watch. (Or when you accidentally scroll up and need to re-watch the whole thing..)

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by dang »

classified wrote: post #79
herpderperator wrote: post #42

I think part of TikTok's success is the fact that they have a public/guest browser platform[0] that doesn't restrict you from seeing content without an account. It means people who wouldn't usually have the mobile app can still be a part of the action, and that may eventually drive them to sign up. It's actually almost unbelievable that you can browse endlessly and never once be prompted to sign up unless you try to…

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Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by dang »

mujina93 wrote: post #89

Basically every comment here says positive things about tiktok. Is this a bot invasion on HN or is it really that good? The few times I tried it it gave me loads of crappy content. No thank you, I'm not in for another doom scrolling addiction. The world has already enough addictive dopamine-f**ing time-sucker almost contentless social medias. I don't have the energies to fight against or maniacally curate my feed for…

> Is this a bot invasion on HN or is it really that good?

Probably neither, but please don't break the site guidelines like you did there.

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In a case like this thread it's pretty trivial to answer the question yourself, actually, by looking at the posting histories of the commenters.

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Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by dang »

eumoria wrote: post #179
defaultname wrote: post #165

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It's Vine 2.0 with great content creation tools and a surprisingly advanced set of filters. What's there to hate? There is another comment somewhere down that claims that any positive opinion is "paid or smoking crack" and that is too common when people feel threatened by something. Many of the things we do in life are simply a Waste Of Time (if we discount being entertained as a worthwhile pursuit). Commenting on HN…

Thank you new account praising TikTok and saying HN is a waste of time and proving my point. I didn't ask "what's there to hate" but rather almost NO posts on HN get critical praise for an invasive social media app. Wow.

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Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by dang »

defaultname wrote: post #187
eumoria wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you new account praising TikTok and saying HN is a waste of time and proving my point. I didn't ask "what's there to hate" but rather almost NO posts on HN get critical praise for an invasive social media app. Wow.

While trite and below HN, the best reply is ROFL. You first announce that you've done your extensive audit of accounts and can't yet find the fishiness -- though you're sure it's there given that people have opinions different from you -- and now my account is too young for your suspicion filter and therefore "proves your point"? I literally laughed out loud. This whole discussion reminds me when everyone was fearmon…

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