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Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by darkstar999 »

mujina93 wrote: post #89

Basically every comment here says positive things about tiktok. Is this a bot invasion on HN or is it really that good? The few times I tried it it gave me loads of crappy content. No thank you, I'm not in for another doom scrolling addiction. The world has already enough addictive dopamine-f**ing time-sucker almost contentless social medias. I don't have the energies to fight against or maniacally curate my feed for…

> The few times I tried it it gave me loads of crappy content

Feed the algorithm. Like/comment/follow content you like and it shows you a lot of good stuff. It really works.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by FuriouslyAdrift »

cycomanic wrote: post #61
zerocrates wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instagram in particular seems to have gotten much more aggressive in not letting you view anything without an account. For whatever reason though businesses like restaurants and bars will often nominally "have" a wide range of social media accounts, Instagram is often the only one with actual content. I used to be able to reasonably use these but I now seem to get a wall requiring login immediately. It's possibly/pro…

I've been using teddit.net because reddit on mobile gas become unusable. Someone here pointed me to it.

old.reddit.com is still there.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by benbristow »

tyingq wrote: post #54
contriban wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s great to occasionally see success stories from companies that break the mold and can be used as examples a-la-Craigslist. Without them we’re forever stuck with “I know that a signup lightbox on first visit is ugly, but it converts!”

Though, sadly, things like Facebook Marketplace are eating nice sites like craigslist: https://dealerpromoterpro.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Sim...

Facebook Marketplace doesn't have a UI that came out of the 90s. No wonder.

Also isn't restricted to cities, plays nicely in smaller towns.

In the UK we also have Gumtree, which is like Craiglist but with a nicer UI - https://www.gumtree.com/

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by notsureaboutpg »

eumoria wrote: post #162

The endless praise for TikTok here is very confusing. I don't think it's in bad faith the account age of the commenters all seem normal and the like. I don't have any strong hatred of TikTok myself but usually HN are a privacy concerned skeptical bunch and this is very weird.

I don't have an account with Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. I dislike lots of social media. Here's what I like about TikTok:

1) Quality content

2) Excellent content curation (better than YouTube recommended videos)

3) Not needing to have an account makes me happy

4) I can watch tiktoks shared with me from others without an account and without even visiting the site (videos can be downloaded or ripped using CLI programs).

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by efdee »

Graffur wrote: post #139
angio wrote: post #125

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TikTok is very good at recommending new content based on what you engage with (watch, like, comment, etc), if your feed is full of girls dancing, it's because you spend time actually watching it instead of just moving to the next video. My feed is full of people (for some reason mostly eastern european or from central asia) working at their construction jobs.

I _knew_ this would be the reply. For your info, I don't have a TikTok account so try another argument.

So exactly how do you know what TikTok is full of, then?

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by bonestamp2 »

alex_duf wrote: post #142
herpderperator wrote: post #42

I think part of TikTok's success is the fact that they have a public/guest browser platform[0] that doesn't restrict you from seeing content without an account. It means people who wouldn't usually have the mobile app can still be a part of the action, and that may eventually drive them to sign up. It's actually almost unbelievable that you can browse endlessly and never once be prompted to sign up unless you try to…

Oh it will happen once organic growth slows down and the various teams have KPIs and OKRs to follow. Every company bgoes through these phases. They're still benefiting from their "underdog" status, that won't last

Yep, reddit used to allow lurking too.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by defaultname »

eumoria wrote: post #179
defaultname wrote: post #165

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It's Vine 2.0 with great content creation tools and a surprisingly advanced set of filters. What's there to hate? There is another comment somewhere down that claims that any positive opinion is "paid or smoking crack" and that is too common when people feel threatened by something. Many of the things we do in life are simply a Waste Of Time (if we discount being entertained as a worthwhile pursuit). Commenting on HN…

Thank you new account praising TikTok and saying HN is a waste of time and proving my point. I didn't ask "what's there to hate" but rather almost NO posts on HN get critical praise for an invasive social media app. Wow.

While trite and below HN, the best reply is ROFL. You first announce that you've done your extensive audit of accounts and can't yet find the fishiness -- though you're sure it's there given that people have opinions different from you -- and now my account is too young for your suspicion filter and therefore "proves your point"? I literally laughed out loud.

This whole discussion reminds me when everyone was fearmongering that Snapchat was for kids to send nudes to each other and arrange rainbow parties. When people aren't in on something, it can only possibly have negative value.

My "What's there to hate" query was in response to you claiming that you don't have a strong hatred for it. That's like saying you don't have a strong hatred for deer, or Asians, or trees. It's a weird thing to announce that you don't have a strong hatred for.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by Cream-Corn-11 »

zerocrates wrote: post #53
herpderperator wrote: post #42

I think part of TikTok's success is the fact that they have a public/guest browser platform[0] that doesn't restrict you from seeing content without an account. It means people who wouldn't usually have the mobile app can still be a part of the action, and that may eventually drive them to sign up. It's actually almost unbelievable that you can browse endlessly and never once be prompted to sign up unless you try to…

Instagram in particular seems to have gotten much more aggressive in not letting you view anything without an account. For whatever reason though businesses like restaurants and bars will often nominally "have" a wide range of social media accounts, Instagram is often the only one with actual content. I used to be able to reasonably use these but I now seem to get a wall requiring login immediately. It's possibly/pro…

This is why I use bibliogram mirrors to view Instagram posts.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by mysterEFrank »

defaultname wrote: post #161
Graffur wrote: post #119

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Tiktok is full of girls dancing with very little or very tight clothes on for likes and attention. It's really seedy. There's subreddits dedicated to posting about these accounts. On top of that it is designed to be addicting for the sake of addiction. It doesnt matter what the video is about once it will keep the user on the app. The algorithm will work out the perfect way for each person to be sucked in. We all kno…

To the "girls dancing" claim, I get approximately zero dancing girl videos. If you demonstrated to the app that such is the content you want, that's what you'll get. I get tonnes of birds, comedy, pets, weird animals, etc. "On top of that it is designed to be addicting for the sake of addiction." TikTok doesn't create content. People do. It happens to have content creation tools [the real genius of TikTok that many o…

TikTok pings you every few hours of swiping with a video that tells you to put the phone down and get some fresh air. It's the only social media app I've ever used that does that.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by Der_Einzige »

bonoboTP wrote: post #155
graphtrader wrote: post #141

Any time I have tried to watch videos on it I feel like I am getting a headache and having a few IQ points shaved off. Mostly it makes me sympathize with people back in the day when cocaine was consider a tonic and medicine. "This stuff is so entertaining and I can't believe I just want more and more. You just have to try this cocaine stuff, you will love it".

Agreed, this thread looks astroturfed. I can't believe the readers of usual HN articles would be so all over Tiktok. All I see on Tiktok is brain damage. Pretty people doing "slipping in banana peels" level humor, weird childish stuff like how to use scissors, "mindblow" recipes that make no sense. Various junk "lifehacks" etc. Its all garbage after scrolling for like 30 minutes. But I'm also not the target demograph…

I think tiktok sucks and all, but the users talking about how great it is are not a bunch of green name nobody's - it's established users. I doubt that they were all made using fake comments just for this moment for tiktok to AstroTurf.

But maybe you're right - I'd claim it's just unlikely

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