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Re: TSMC looks to double down on U.S. chip factories as talks in Europe falter

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Post by MangoCoffee »

lenkite wrote: post #207
MangoCoffee wrote: post #158

its always interesting to read the comments on HN regarding China/Taiwan situation. Chinese invasion (Taiwan) threat is always there. It didn't stop when Nixon visit China and it didn't stop when American abandoned Taiwan to have a business relationship with China for more than 40 years. the threat is so old now. there are some running jokes in Taiwan like "China threatening to invade Taiwan since my grandpa is alive…

Old threats are always renewed by fresh, belligerent leaders. President (or Emperor-for-life?) Xi firmly believes in expansionism - though he rephrases this as redressal of past grievances and righting of past wrongs. He has clearly said multiple times that Taiwan is intrinsically part of China and no one can change this. He has also un-equivocally stated that the use of force will not be ruled out. The threat of Chi…

>The threat of China fully annexing Taiwan is a real and present danger today

its always there. what do you do when you have a bully for neighbor? you arm up. what's what Taiwanese govrt have been doing.

Taiwan invested in F16-v, build its own submarines and keep developing its own missile.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2020/12/02/taiwan-is-b...

Re: TSMC looks to double down on U.S. chip factories as talks in Europe falter

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Post by MrsPeaches »

0dayz wrote: post #350
MrsPeaches wrote: post #346

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Patrice Lumumba [1] won an election and was removed and assassinated by the US and Belgian governments. They replaced him with Mobutu Sese Seko a kleptocratic and murderous dictator, whom they supported for most of his reign. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrice_Lumumba [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobutu_Sese_Seko

Maybe read your sources before posting: "The report concluded that Belgium had not ordered Lumumba's assassination" And "In 2013, the U.S. State Department admitted that President Eisenhower authorized the murder of Lumumba. However, documents released in 2017 revealed that an American role in Lumumba's murder was only under consideration by the CIA. CIA Chief Allan Dulles had allocated $100,000 to accomplish the act…

It does also say:

"In the early 21st century, writer Ludo De Witte found written orders from the Belgian government that had requested Lumumba's execution, and documents on various arrangements, such as death squads"

I realise that this may be a bit of confirmation bias on my side, regarding which of these I believe.

Re: TSMC looks to double down on U.S. chip factories as talks in Europe falter

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Post by 908B64B197 »

opportune wrote: post #455
TMWNN wrote: post #239

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This is also why there won't ever be a European Silicon Valley. Paris isn't going to support any Europe-wide effort to create one that isn't located in the Hexagon, nor will Berlin support one that isn't somewhere in Germany. London pre-Brexit would not and did not support anything that might take away from Silicon Fen. While other US states encourage their own tech centers' growth, Floridians and New Yorkers and Tex…

Part of the problem is that in Europe they go about these initiatives by throwing grant money and government programs at it. This can create jobs, and they can become efficient at extracting grant money, but it doesn't necessarily create a self-sustaining economic engine. In my opinion Europe needs to go about it via policy, and maybe even culture, rather than funding. Get rid of non-competes. Make financing less sca…

> Part of the problem is that in Europe they go about these initiatives by throwing grant money and government programs at it. This can create jobs, and they can become efficient at extracting grant money, but it doesn't necessarily create a self-sustaining economic engine.

It's what happens when you redirect so much money to politicians and bureaucrats. Creating jobs is how they get reelected. That's also how you get labor laws that make it difficult to fire and hire: the slacker's vote is worth just as much as the startup founder's.

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Post by TMWNN »

Dah00n wrote: post #319
TMWNN wrote: post #291

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Whether one thinks that Rupert Murdoch is a supervillain who manipulates politics in the UK and Australia as easily as a dog's owner gives orders to his pet, or merely an influential billionaire media mogul who gets the ear of world leaders like other billionaire media moguls, my point stands: There is no "there" in the EU for him to talk to.

Which is a good thing and one of the many differences between the EU and the US. Trump is known to be happy to give out his number to big tech which is absolutely anti-democratic as this is backaccess to power. It is on par with corruption in destroying democracies.

Trump gave/gives out his number to almost anyone, including reporters. I can't find it right now, but there is a Times article in which the author recounts how after "a reporter' (i.e., the author) left a voicemail on Trump's cell phone, the man himself called back late that night.

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Post by giardini »

kragen wrote: post #312
giardini wrote: post #272

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Your thinking has many curious gaps! e.g., I fail to see how "shortwave radios" would be particularly useful for the 20 minutes of "nuclear retaliation", Bitcoin transactions require networked computers which, again, won't be around w/o power/batteries, a working network, etc. Implementing the Haber-Bosch process requires very sophisticated engineering, machining and careful operation. Lots of trial and error is invo…

> I fail to see how "shortwave radios" would be particularly useful for the 20 minutes of "nuclear retaliation", Correct, the fact that nuclear retaliation takes a few minutes, not months or years, means that your hypothetical disintegration scenario is irrelevant to my original point: in the event of a full-blown war between the USA and PRC, there will be no semiconductor fabs in the USA, foreign-owned or otherwise.…

I concede to you, O Master, that my thoughts are to Yours, as mere raindrops are to the Oceans of the World. Furthermore, as a token of our discussion, I offer this simple link so that you might someday smoke the Peace Pipe and Bury the Hatchet:

http://www.todayifoundout.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/smo... - - -

Related article: http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2014/05/origin-expre...

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Post by VVertigo »

hollerith wrote: post #424
kube-system wrote: post #421

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I once did some work for a junkyard, and their business is a lot more complicated than what I would imagine a recycler has to do. They have to identify, catalog, evaluate the quality of parts. They have to identify cross-reference fitment information. With thousands of different vehicles with thousands of parts each, they’re looking at millions of SKUs. Then they have to inventory, warehouse, market, and manage the s…

The auto junkyards of my childhood left the identification and evaluation of the parts to the customer: the parts were left on the car; the customer located, then removed the part he or she needed, then brought it to the office.

Those junkyards are getting few and far between because of liability insurance costs. Now the parts have to be ordered and pulled off for you, which makes it uneconomical for low value parts. Often, just the high value parts are pulled and the car is crushed.

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Post by andrepd »

onetimemanytime wrote: post #325
babayega2 wrote: post #317

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As someone from Africa with knowledge of USA involvement in toppling some governments here, I sometimes wonder who's worst? A country I know for certain it has invaded unilaterally others (USA) or a country with potential of one day in the future for invading countries (China).

OK, in theory you are right. But I doubt the average citizen lost from that. Did those guys win elections or just stole them /took power by gun to loot the country?

Are you serious?? You doubt that the "average citizen" lost out from having their resources plundered / dissidents murdered / genocides committed / food siphoned out during famines / outstandingly successful land reforms overturned because US companies wanted to hoard land ...

It's staggering how insulting your comment is. How would you feel if somebody invaded your country, dismantled your government, decided who got to rule you, and told you it was all for the best and you probably didn't even lose out. Would you like it?

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Post by fxtentacle »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #388
fxtentacle wrote: post #265

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I feel the same way. Talk to your local IHK = chamber of commerce. I did and mine will soon run an article series in all of northern Germany to educate business leaders about electronics, innovation and how that'll create jobs and lucrative patents. It was some work for me to collect statistics and experts to cite, but I expect it'll help my business too by increasing demand. I went with industrial cameras as the exa…

Did you publish your research?

They will publish it in their magazine, but they'll remove company identifiers

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Post by sofixa »

powerapple wrote: post #443
elefanten wrote: post #404

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This is wholly contradicted by decades of Chinese statecraft and diplomacy, and more recently and directly by Xi’s repeated, insistent rhetoric about unification. They badly want Taiwan. Not at any cost, but certainly at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives —- especially those of the ‘ungrateful’ and ‘unruly’ Taiwanese. The existence of trade between them in no way contradicts those desires.

You are right about the situation now. I was mainly talking about how did we end up here. The "Taiwan is part of China" has been in the text book of China since the People's Republic of China founded. If you looked at diplomacy, one thing China did previously was to maintain the status quo to a degree that it has refused to take the few countries which recognize Taiwan in order to maintain the friendly relationship.…

> he "Taiwan is part of China" has been in the text book of China since the People's Republic of China founded

Well... The island has been a part of China historically, taken by the Japanese in the first Sino-Japanese war, and after WWII returned to China, which was in the middle of a civil war, in which the losing side ran away to the island. Their flag and official name are the ones of the Kuomintang party and regime, aforementioned losing side.

It'd be like if the CSA run away to Hawaii, assimilated the local population, called itself CSA with flag and all, and the USA still said from times to times it belongs to them.

And not only that, the UN and all members see it like that as well - officially and for diplomatic purposes, Taiwan doesn't exist and is a part of China.

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