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Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by hutzlibu »

tayo42 wrote: post #66
herpderperator wrote: post #42

I think part of TikTok's success is the fact that they have a public/guest browser platform[0] that doesn't restrict you from seeing content without an account. It means people who wouldn't usually have the mobile app can still be a part of the action, and that may eventually drive them to sign up. It's actually almost unbelievable that you can browse endlessly and never once be prompted to sign up unless you try to…

Reddit used to be like that. Tiktok is young, it can change.

Very likely after a certain market share.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by throwaway4good »

mujina93 wrote: post #89

Basically every comment here says positive things about tiktok. Is this a bot invasion on HN or is it really that good? The few times I tried it it gave me loads of crappy content. No thank you, I'm not in for another doom scrolling addiction. The world has already enough addictive dopamine-f**ing time-sucker almost contentless social medias. I don't have the energies to fight against or maniacally curate my feed for…

There sure has been a change in attitude towards tiktok here on hn. Just go back a year or so when Trump tried to ban it (or force a cheap sale to oracle) and tiktok was accused of being an extension of ccp - read the comments from back then.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by throwaway4good »

throwaway4good wrote: post #102
mujina93 wrote: post #89

Basically every comment here says positive things about tiktok. Is this a bot invasion on HN or is it really that good? The few times I tried it it gave me loads of crappy content. No thank you, I'm not in for another doom scrolling addiction. The world has already enough addictive dopamine-f**ing time-sucker almost contentless social medias. I don't have the energies to fight against or maniacally curate my feed for…

There sure has been a change in attitude towards tiktok here on hn. Just go back a year or so when Trump tried to ban it (or force a cheap sale to oracle) and tiktok was accused of being an extension of ccp - read the comments from back then.

Ps: it is really that good - imho next generation social media.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by slightwinder »

dimmke wrote: post #17
dimmke wrote: post #13

TikTok really is incredible. I don't do much in the way of social media, but it's better than any other big app I've ever used. The other really cool use I've seen of this style of stitching is emergent songs. Here's an example: https://www.tiktok.com/@patwhoisnice/video/69158104300531089...

Also, it's the first social platform I've seen that has solved the new user growth problem - every user's first few videos are guaranteed hundreds of views no matter what. So good content naturally rises without having to be spammy/promote itself. Compare that to something like Twitch where growing a stream to even getting 30 regular viewers can take years of grinding and a ton of hustle. The average follower count f…

TikTok and twitch are not same content-wise. It's to feed your content to people if it's just a few seconds. The platform depends on feeding a huge number of very fast changing content to the viewers. That makes it also very simple to analyze the reception of your content.

That's something impossible on a slow paced medium like live-streaming. But the other side us that it's very hard to make real money with TikTok, because all the juicy sellouts that work on long videos and live-streaming, don't transist very well to short clips and a platform with low attention.

Because of that follower-count on tiktok has not the same worth as on other platforms. 1000 Tiktok-follower is like 1 twitch or youtube-follower. People are just getting elluded by the high numbers.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by justaj »

cycomanic wrote: post #61
zerocrates wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instagram in particular seems to have gotten much more aggressive in not letting you view anything without an account. For whatever reason though businesses like restaurants and bars will often nominally "have" a wide range of social media accounts, Instagram is often the only one with actual content. I used to be able to reasonably use these but I now seem to get a wall requiring login immediately. It's possibly/pro…

I've been using teddit.net because reddit on mobile gas become unusable. Someone here pointed me to it.

> Lightweight (teddit frontpage: ~30 HTTP requests with ~270 KB of data downloaded vs. Reddit frontpage: ~190 requests with ~24 MB)

Yeah, teddit.net does seem to be pretty light on mobile gas.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by Kiro »

OT but why is there a comment at the top here with a direct link to the video that I can't reply to? I wanted to reply that you should check the thread and not just that video since there are many different videos in it.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by Kiro »

schmorptron wrote: post #88
herpderperator wrote: post #42

I think part of TikTok's success is the fact that they have a public/guest browser platform[0] that doesn't restrict you from seeing content without an account. It means people who wouldn't usually have the mobile app can still be a part of the action, and that may eventually drive them to sign up. It's actually almost unbelievable that you can browse endlessly and never once be prompted to sign up unless you try to…

Interesting, I recently downloaded the android app to see if there was anything interesting for me, but there they wouldn't let you past without signing up

That's not true. I use the app without an account.

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by strogonoff »

zerocrates wrote: post #53
herpderperator wrote: post #42

I think part of TikTok's success is the fact that they have a public/guest browser platform[0] that doesn't restrict you from seeing content without an account. It means people who wouldn't usually have the mobile app can still be a part of the action, and that may eventually drive them to sign up. It's actually almost unbelievable that you can browse endlessly and never once be prompted to sign up unless you try to…

Instagram in particular seems to have gotten much more aggressive in not letting you view anything without an account. For whatever reason though businesses like restaurants and bars will often nominally "have" a wide range of social media accounts, Instagram is often the only one with actual content. I used to be able to reasonably use these but I now seem to get a wall requiring login immediately. It's possibly/pro…

> Instagram in particular seems to have gotten much more aggressive in not letting you view anything without an account. Pretty much everything "big" is much much worse on the mobile web, I guess because they figure they stand a pretty good shot at getting you to get The App instead. It sucks.

Those are two separate issues. Almost all features of Instagram, except for interactive widgets in stories, are available from the web (doesn’t matter mobile or desktop). Like with Facebook, I chose to not install the actual app on my new phone, but I do fire up their web versions sometimes. Considering the extent of functionality, Instagram actually works really smoothly, and I hear the same about FB’s non-basic web version. Though yes, they do require an account.

Speaking of Twitter, it also works well from the web (albeit with no support for their equivalent of stories), but curiously they block VPNs (or perhaps just EC2 IP ranges) in a way that completely breaks some of the site (such as user profiles).

Re: TikTok Remix Culture

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Post by syoc »

buryat wrote: post #60

I have never seen so many to say "average" people on tiktok like on any other social platform, in a sense that I can relate to those people and don't feel like a celebrity is trying to feed me some content down my throat. There's so much of normalization of everything that I'm blown away by how normal Tiktok is, you can see teenagers struggling in a school, you can see people hating their 9-5 jobs, you can see crafts…

I don't use TikTok myself but I guess you see what you want to see. Kinda hard to make general statements about content on a platform that is built around curating to individual tastes. I would be surprised if people more interested in celebrities and rich people would not be able to get an endless stream of "professional influencer" content on TikTok as well.
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