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FBI Has Gained Access to Sci-Hub Founder's Apple Account, Email Claims

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Post by solaarphunk »

conradev wrote: post #116
bumbledraven wrote: post #37

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modeless wrote here in Feb, 2021 ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25778758 ) : > It's also important to realize that the backup includes your encrypted iMessage messages, and the key required to decrypt them. Meaning that if you have backups enabled, all the "end-to-end" encryption in iMessage is defeated. Apple and by extension the FBI can read your messages. This is documented by Apple here: https://support.a…

[EDIT: I misread] > Even if you disable backups, whenever you correspond with someone that has backups enabled those messages are still accessible to Apple. That last bit is not true. From Apple’s security PDF: > When Messages in iCloud is enabled, iMessage, Business Chat, text (SMS), and MMS messages are removed from the user’s existing iCloud Backup and are instead stored in an end-to-end encrypted CloudKit contain…

It’s worth noting that if you use iMessage for MacOS, all of your messages are stored unencrypted, in plain text, on your computer HD.

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Post by upofadown »

wolverine876 wrote: post #150
upofadown wrote: post #109

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People routinely do end to end encryption with email every day using either OpenPGP or S/MIME. Heck, email encryption is where the term "end to end encryption" came from. When someone claims E2EE for some other sort of messaging system they have to at least be as good at it as the email case to be taken seriously.

> People routinely do end to end encryption with email every day using either OpenPGP or S/MIME. Those solutions encrypt only the content and not the headers, which are just as important. Also, encrypting the content prevents some webmail services from functioning, such as search. Email can't really be made secure.

The headers are mostly protected with the TLS used for the connections between the server and the clients and other servers. Email is no worse than most things these days and better than many.

* https://articles.59.ca/doku.php?id=em:anonemail

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Post by the_optimist »

mint2 wrote: post #127
temp8964 wrote: post #23

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If the FBI can use the Russia thing on a presidential candidate, they can use it on anybody.

Let’s be real. There was a trump Russia thing. It’s beyond sketchy to have your campaign manager and his aid literally provide internal polling data to Russian intelligence. And Russia was undeniably trying to help trump win, and trump was undeniably pleased that was happening. I don’t get why people deny this happened.

If you look at source documents, the “provided material” was polling data of the kind one could find on the news.

Thus, this is the thinnest conceivable gruel for spying on a campaign with FISA warrants, framing an incoming national security advisor, multiple impeachment efforts, four years of media hysteria deeply interned with leaks and special council, and countless lives ruined. In the course of history, there are simply no excuses for this kind of casual slander, excepting smack dab in the middle of an outrageously powerful police-bureaucratic state.

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Post by dredmorbius »

daperor630 wrote: post #179
dredmorbius wrote: post #135

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Onus of precedent would have to be that it does not . If you're able to find any such, I might have further interest in this line of questioning. Though I doubt even that.

United States v. Verdugo-Urquidez, 494 U.S. 259 (1990), was a United States Supreme Court decision that determined that Fourth Amendment protections do not apply to searches and seizures by United States agents of property owned by a nonresident alien in a foreign country.

Points for a case in which a protection was held not to apply ... on a 5/4 decision. (Hand grenades, horse shoes, H-bombs, ... and SCOTUS decisions.)

Which still doesn't establish that no Constitutional rights (that is, limitations on government action) apply to extraterritorial noncitizens.

But props all the same for a relevant citation rather than more smoke-blowing as others have been.

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Post by the_optimist »

tootie wrote: post #194
temp8964 wrote: post #23

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If the FBI can use the Russia thing on a presidential candidate, they can use it on anybody.

This is a very weasely statement. The FBI and multiple other agencies investigated a very real campaign of election influence that swirled around a particular candidate. No one ever made an accusation that wasn't supported by facts. There was no concerted effort to punish a candidate. Proxies to the candidate were tried and convicted for their very real crimes.

Your statement is simply false. There were four years of allegations and strong innuendo floated in congress and the press, as well as extraordinary use of carefully worded statements to sustain extralegal focus with zero evidence of behavior that would violate an actual law. No one was charged with or found guilty of anything other than conjured process crimes. History will not forgive, and it will not forget.

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Post by the_optimist »

chaosharmonic wrote: post #199
temp8964 wrote: post #57

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There is nothing new about Russia interfering with foreign elections. What is new is that a presidential candidate can be accused of colluding with Russia. You can't just go back to say "Russian collusion" means something else, when in fact the mainstream media and the Democrat Party members at the time was claiming Trump colluded with Putin.

It's also new for a presidential candidate to literally ask for their assistance on live TV.

The deep-state circus that followed was clearly rooted in this. Don’t make them mad.

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Post by Sleepytime »

ryanmarsh wrote: post #184
roody15 wrote: post #171

Doesn’t the FBI have better things to do? Seriously Sci-Hub is more of a public good than a serious threat to the US.

You must be new here. The flight logs of Jeffrey Epstein's jet were obtained via subpoena and published in the press and not a single indictment was brought forth from it. Every time there's a mass shooting we hear the shooter was "known to the FBI". The FBI has better things to do than harass Elbakyan, but it won't do them.

Considering the FBI's history of stopping terror attacks that they manufactured[1], I suspect many of those 'known to the FBI' shooters were actually working with the FBI in some capacity or another.

[1] https://theintercept.com/2015/02/26/fbi-manufacture-plots-te...

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