This article is working on a 10 year past. Food desserts in 2021 Los Angeles are fiction. There are more than 8 grocery chains and online services that will deliver any produce, meat , packaged food that you want. Many also accept EBT cards. This is the extension of a popular fallacy, by lazy journalists.
Microfarms come to South L.A. frontyards, bringing fresh produce to food deserts
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Re: Microfarms come to South L.A. frontyards, bringing fresh produce to food deserts
#62garden -> microfarm garage -> microfactory trailer park -> tiny house village gruel -> soylent I'm not sure if there's a word for this other than "marketing", but it's an interesting phenomenon I've been noticing lately. Just re-label something old and it sells better. See also: the McDonald's celebrity meals, it's the same chicken nuggets or hamburgers they've been selling for decades, but call it the "____ Meal" an…
> I'm not sure if there's a word for this other than "marketing",
gentrification?
Re: Microfarms come to South L.A. frontyards, bringing fresh produce to food deserts
#63garden -> microfarm garage -> microfactory trailer park -> tiny house village gruel -> soylent I'm not sure if there's a word for this other than "marketing", but it's an interesting phenomenon I've been noticing lately. Just re-label something old and it sells better. See also: the McDonald's celebrity meals, it's the same chicken nuggets or hamburgers they've been selling for decades, but call it the "____ Meal" an…
They are similar in size but not in quality. A microfarm is a profitable (hopefully) but small business.
A garage is where you park your car. A microfactory is where you build goods that you sell. Quite a few famous companies started in garages of course.
Trailer parks are where trailer trash live in old and broken trailers. People with limited means may choose to live in a place that doesn't suck that just happens to be small.
And so on. It's not just relabeling. It's actually doing things better/differently with modern means and technology. I follow quite a few people on youtube into things like farming, making, cooking/baking. It's a thing this century. People with good educations busying themselves in the small with reinventing humble things like farming, baking, etc. and making a living out of that. It's not just marketing. I was born in the seventies and find this fascinating.
These people are choosing to do these things instead of being wage slaves in some corporate hell hole and are making it work with modern technology, hard work, and creative use of resources.
I agree Soylent is weird though. I guess if you hate food and life in general, that would be acceptable as a way to survive. Otherwise, you might get a bit of joy out of eating or making some genuinely nice food. It's not that hard.
Re: Microfarms come to South L.A. frontyards, bringing fresh produce to food deserts
#64This article is working on a 10 year past. Food desserts in 2021 Los Angeles are fiction. There are more than 8 grocery chains and online services that will deliver any produce, meat , packaged food that you want. Many also accept EBT cards. This is the extension of a popular fallacy, by lazy journalists.
Isn’t this area of LA also gentrifying? I heard it’s way better than it was 10 years ago.
Re: Microfarms come to South L.A. frontyards, bringing fresh produce to food deserts
#65This article is working on a 10 year past. Food desserts in 2021 Los Angeles are fiction. There are more than 8 grocery chains and online services that will deliver any produce, meat , packaged food that you want. Many also accept EBT cards. This is the extension of a popular fallacy, by lazy journalists.
Any delivered food, be that take-out, or food-in-a-box subscription services, or services that shop for you, even if provided by the chain itself - are very expensive in my experience, compared to typical super-market food. When I usually hear food deserts being discussed - it is usually in the context of how it affects low income areas and population. And any services that charge extra for convenience and that on top of the price of food itself - are likely not a solution that will address the needs of the poor - “why don’t they just have it delivered?” is a bit “let them eat cake”-ish.
Re: Microfarms come to South L.A. frontyards, bringing fresh produce to food deserts
#66Similar approach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T15gXm6ha_I
In my mind small scale aquaponics seems to have the advantage that it's not as labour intensive as small scale traditional farming (e.g. it seems to me that things like transplanting and weeding tend to be less labour intensive and you don't usually need to apply fertilizers because the fish do it for you). This is relevant because I believe that labour is a significant factor in making micro farming viable (more so…
AFAIK aquaponics is less labour-intensive than traditional (soil-based) farming (all parameters being as equal as possible). Pest control is also less of a burden and risk factor, in my opinion especially with ebb & tide systems.
It, indeed, cannot be certified as organic. However some found ways, such as selling (or even creating) to high-end restaurants.
Pertinent (with labour) studies: https://ag.purdue.edu/agecon/Documents/Aquaponics%20in%20Ind...
https://extension.okstate.edu/fact-sheets/economics-of-aquap...
Personal experience: string interest since 2009, created then maintained many micro to very-small scale experimental systems.
Re: Microfarms come to South L.A. frontyards, bringing fresh produce to food deserts
#67garden -> microfarm garage -> microfactory trailer park -> tiny house village gruel -> soylent I'm not sure if there's a word for this other than "marketing", but it's an interesting phenomenon I've been noticing lately. Just re-label something old and it sells better. See also: the McDonald's celebrity meals, it's the same chicken nuggets or hamburgers they've been selling for decades, but call it the "____ Meal" an…
They are similar in size but not in quality. A microfarm is a profitable (hopefully) but small business. A garage is where you park your car. A microfactory is where you build goods that you sell. Quite a few famous companies started in garages of course. Trailer parks are where trailer trash live in old and broken trailers. People with limited means may choose to live in a place that doesn't suck that just happens t…
People sell stuff from their gardens at local markets on weekends and always have, some are quite productive.
People keep their tools in their garage and that's where they make stuff, like the local wooden toymaker here. It's his "microfactory" and he has 50+ (articulated, stained-in-multiple-colors, interesting and varied in type) on display every weekend for sale, quantity enough to justify the haughty "factory" label for his garage, I'd say.
MANY retirees live in rather nice, well-maintained trailer parks, the only difference between their trailer park and a tiny house village is the exterior cladding. Theirs might even cost more.
Don't buy the hype. These things aren't actually different.
Re: Microfarms come to South L.A. frontyards, bringing fresh produce to food deserts
#68garden -> microfarm garage -> microfactory trailer park -> tiny house village gruel -> soylent I'm not sure if there's a word for this other than "marketing", but it's an interesting phenomenon I've been noticing lately. Just re-label something old and it sells better. See also: the McDonald's celebrity meals, it's the same chicken nuggets or hamburgers they've been selling for decades, but call it the "____ Meal" an…
> I'm not sure if there's a word for this other than "marketing", gentrification?
Exactly this - it's a remarketing of normal working class concepts to upper middle class hipsters so they can pretend to be authentic and salt-of-the-earth. All of the labels the parent listed are associated with hipsters for a reason.
Re: Microfarms come to South L.A. frontyards, bringing fresh produce to food deserts
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are a lot of calories in a pound of beef, I think that's what OP was saying. The other side of the equation is it takes way more energy per calorie to produce.
According to Wolfram Alpha, cashew nuts have over twice the calories of beef. [1][2] [1] https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=calories+in+1+pound+of... [2] https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=calories+in+1+pound+of...
Except one steer gives you about 400 pounds of beef (https://www.skipperwbreeders.com/recommendations/quick-answe...).
400 pounds of Cashew nuts? Man that's a lot of trees. Not to mention the other nutrients in beef. A piece of beef contains everything a human needs to live. You could just eat beef and you'd probably not be great, but have all your nutritional requirements met. Cashew nuts... no.
According to https://www.quora.com/How-much-fruits-and-nuts-does-one-Cash..., to produce 500 pounds of Cashews, you need 2.47 acres. Now compare this to a pig, which, if you slaughter it at around 270lbs, yields about 154 pounds of meat. That means 3-4 pigs will give you enough meat as 2.47 acres of cashews, and pigs eat everything. Pigs can be kept with about 8 sq ft per pig: https://familyfarmlivestock.com/how-much-space-do-i-need-to-...
Beef is definitely less efficient as a form of meat. It's also not the only form of meat. If you had a few acres to grow things, you should grow some vegetables and a whole lot of forage for your pigs, which will constitute the base of your diet.
Re: Microfarms come to South L.A. frontyards, bringing fresh produce to food deserts
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
seems fairly intuitive if you just think of fat and protein calories all being densely packed in a piece of meat vs a literal pound of lettuce? Just like people joke with celery being net negative calories, you would lose a good amount of calories just chewing all that lettuce. Almost that entire pound would be water.
Lettuce is not consumed for its calories. Grains, legumes, and oils are the vegetarian sources of calories.
Grains are incredibly inefficient. Legumes are good, but not very good at calorie density.
The idea that oil seed is more efficient than meat is funny, and really shows how the vegetarian-industrial complex has gaslighted the world. Oil seeds are incredibly inefficient, extremely environmentally harmful, and incredibly resource intensive. Not to mention a good portion of modern oil seed relies on petrochemicals to extract the oil...
In terms of calorie density, tubers like Potatos, Sweet Potato, Yam, Cassava, etc, are better calorie stores on microfarms. You're not going to grow enough grain on an acre to feed anyone.