They say theres an albertsons a mile away. I guarantee they have fresh veggies and they can easily walk there.
At a brisk pace, 2 miles (there and back) will take about 40 minutes...and then carrying bags of groceries on the way back too. Easy I suppose if you've not had to do that too many times yourself.
Microfarms come to South L.A. frontyards, bringing fresh produce to food deserts
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Re: Microfarms come to South L.A. frontyards, bringing fresh produce to food deserts
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meat is pound for pound more efficient at energy storage for humans Citation definitely needed here. Meat is an extremely inefficient vehicle for getting calories into humans.
seems fairly intuitive if you just think of fat and protein calories all being densely packed in a piece of meat vs a literal pound of lettuce? Just like people joke with celery being net negative calories, you would lose a good amount of calories just chewing all that lettuce. Almost that entire pound would be water.
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It's not about being sure it will work. It's about giving options for decent food to people who want it, not physically forcing it into their bodies.
$43/month for 3 pounds of veggies a week is not giving
| For that, subscribers get a 3-pound mix of greens and vegetables every week.
$43 a month gets you 12 pounds a month with delivery which comes to $3.58 a pound ($3 without delivery).
Depending on the vegetables that's a great price.
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At a brisk pace, 2 miles (there and back) will take about 40 minutes...and then carrying bags of groceries on the way back too. Easy I suppose if you've not had to do that too many times yourself.
Very American. A 20 min walk to the store is a “problem”.
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#55Similar approach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T15gXm6ha_I
However the above is based only on my intuition and personal experience[1], I would like to see some studies about that, does anyone know of any?
One disadvantage of aquaponics seems to be that, if you ever happen to scale up and start selling some of your produce, in some countries you can't sell it as organic - because there tends to be a requirement, across several countries, that you grow your crops in-soil for organic certification (Australia, where I live, is one of those countries, IIRC this is also the case in the EU).
To me this feels a bit unfair because typically in aquaponics you won't use many chemicals if any (either for the reasons mentioned above, or because the chemicals would harm your fish), so I think it would appeal the same type of people who buy organic food.
[1] I grew up on a medium-sized farm and as an adult I've got some limited experience in aquaponics, as a hobbyist.
Re: Microfarms come to South L.A. frontyards, bringing fresh produce to food deserts
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
meat is pound for pound more efficient at energy storage for humans Citation definitely needed here. Meat is an extremely inefficient vehicle for getting calories into humans.
There are a lot of calories in a pound of beef, I think that's what OP was saying. The other side of the equation is it takes way more energy per calorie to produce.
[1] https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=calories+in+1+pound+of...
[2] https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=calories+in+1+pound+of...
Re: Microfarms come to South L.A. frontyards, bringing fresh produce to food deserts
#57They say theres an albertsons a mile away. I guarantee they have fresh veggies and they can easily walk there.
At a brisk pace, 2 miles (there and back) will take about 40 minutes...and then carrying bags of groceries on the way back too. Easy I suppose if you've not had to do that too many times yourself.
Re: Microfarms come to South L.A. frontyards, bringing fresh produce to food deserts
#58garage -> microfactory
trailer park -> tiny house village
gruel -> soylent
I'm not sure if there's a word for this other than "marketing", but it's an interesting phenomenon I've been noticing lately. Just re-label something old and it sells better.
See also: the McDonald's celebrity meals, it's the same chicken nuggets or hamburgers they've been selling for decades, but call it the "____ Meal" and get a million new customers.
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Very American. A 20 min walk to the store is a “problem”.
It would be a problem for me, here in Germany, too. I wouldn't live anywhere where the next supermarket is more than ten minutes away by foot. Usually there are several in that radius. Where I currently live there are two supermarkets within a ten minute walk. I suppose I could make longer distances work if the infrastructure allowed for safe cycling to the supermarket, but I somehow doubt that this is the case in th…
Edit: It would take me longer to drive there if you include parking and everything.
Re: Microfarms come to South L.A. frontyards, bringing fresh produce to food deserts
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It would be a problem for me, here in Germany, too. I wouldn't live anywhere where the next supermarket is more than ten minutes away by foot. Usually there are several in that radius. Where I currently live there are two supermarkets within a ten minute walk. I suppose I could make longer distances work if the infrastructure allowed for safe cycling to the supermarket, but I somehow doubt that this is the case in th…
Huh. I’m a fatass and figured I’d be the first to complain about walking, but 20 min? I mean my kids walk further than that school each day. Edit: It would take me longer to drive there if you include parking and everything.