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Re: AWS drops bandwidth pricing

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Dropbox must be super happy that half their bandwidth costs have disappeared!

Upload is probably much less than half of dropbox's bandwidth. If multiple users have the same file, it only needs to be uploaded once; but it needs to be downloaded every time someone syncs a directory containing it to a new machine.

Re: AWS drops bandwidth pricing

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I'm blown away. This radically changes the cost for one of my core products (automated browsing from EC2 machines). I've thought for a long time that EC2 was getting comparatively very expensive for bandwidth (simply not decreasing their prices). I thought they would have to change it, but I didn't expect free!

I wouldn't be surprised if they put a fair use clause somewhere. Otherwise you could hypothetically run a fairly resource intensive bot that scrapes data 24x7 using up aws download bw for no cost.

I don't think AWS needs a fair use clause, because their cost for incoming bandwidth is virtually zero (since they have to buy symmetric connections) and if you're sucking in a lot of data you're probably paying them a reasonable amount to store it, process it, or both.

Re: AWS drops bandwidth pricing

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Why? Name me one good reason. Name me one.

Shitloads of rogue bots doing "social media monitoring". Shitloads of rogue bots stealing content for black-hat SEO. Shitloads of rogue bots harvesting email addresses. Shitloads of rogue bots submitting spammy replies.

So maintain a blacklist of elastic IPs. If it's too big for you, make it a community effort.

Those are bad reasons to close your site to all of AWS.

As nupark2 mentioned, there are legitimate users routing traffic through EC2, even some bots that you'd want to visit your site. Archive.org comes to mind (many of there scrapers are or were behind AWS). Closing your site or app to a large swath of the web is the wrong solution. It's like killing a spider with a bazooka.

Re: AWS drops bandwidth pricing

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For another comparison, voxel.net (which serves imgur): http://www.voxel.net/pricing $0.10/GB up to 40TB $0.07/GB up to 500TB $0.05/GB >500TB This looks like the cheapest "real" CDN I've seen. Awesome :) Not that I need it [yet], but here's to hoping :)

I use CDNetworks, and at a 50TB commit I'm getting /much/ better pricing than that... I've even been quoted better pricing than that by Akamai (which people in this industry view as notoriously expensive). I might encourage you to drop the quotes around "real" and look at actually real CDNs (the kind you have to call and negotiate pricing with): they aren't as expensive as you apparently think they are.

Are you seriously suggesting that imgur, which is currently doing almost 1PB/month, isn't using a "real" CDN?

Quotes are there because I've heard of people buying up "unlimited bandwidth" shared hosting packages, and using them as a cheap "CDN".

Re: AWS drops bandwidth pricing

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Can you elaborate on this? Not disputing your point, but it would be nice if someone could jump in with some real world numbers or a rule of thumb.

It's because of the ratio of reads to writes. For many applications, especially in social/content, the creation traffic is an order of magnitude or two less than the consumption traffic. So free inbound bandwidth is a bit of a rounding error. Here's a somewhat old article that captures the rule. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2006/jul/20/guardianwee...

however some cases will be the exact opposite. I have an application that downloads lots of data from the internet, processes it to <1/1000th the size and then serves the results. My bill will decrease after this.

Re: AWS drops bandwidth pricing

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Also, backup solutions based on S3. Most of their traffic is inbound.

About 90% of Tarsnap's bandwidth is inbound... but most of Tarsnap's AWS costs are for storage, not bandwidth. Backup services tend to store a lot of cold data.

As a Tarsnap customer, would this allow you to stop charging on sending data to Tarsnap, or does that still cost you somewhere in the lineup?

Re: AWS drops bandwidth pricing

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Have you tried something that doesn't have the overhead of torrents and can make many concurrent connections like a local HK usenet server?

I've gone up to 10MB/sec...which is close enough to the theoretical limit of 100Mb/sec. Locally the product works as advertised. But only locally.

> But only locally.

Fair enough. I use Usenet almost exclusively at this point so I would love that.

It's true though, I had this illusion of people with that kind of connection being able to connect to anyone on a quality server instantly.

Re: AWS drops bandwidth pricing

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post #63
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This is probably a move in response to Windows Azure dropping its inbound data transfer rates to zero last week. When I was back in Windows Azure, we would often see AWS try to do a price-match whenever we changed prices drastically.

I know Amazon pays very little attention to competitors. However, their customers might have asked them to lower prices in response to Azure.

I doubt they process customer feedback in the matter of a few days :). Besides, there's a history of AMZN doing things just before or just after a Windows Azure announcement. See their announcements always timed the week before MIX or PDC or the response to various other pricing changes, etc.

Trust me, Amazon keeps a very close watch on the competition. :)

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