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Re: AWS drops bandwidth pricing

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Post by davidu »

Joakal wrote: post #27
davidu wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not talking about transit -- that's talking about consumer Internet connections, which are surprisingly cheap despite the same monopoly infrastructure but largely due to government price controls. That monopoly infrastructure, however, is what keeps outside providers from making inroads -- you don't see anyone but SingTel in Singapore, for instance. Or anyone besides Malaysia Telecom in Malaysia, or NTT / KDDI…

Ah, makes sense, sort of. If there's government price controls, why was the internet monopoly company still increasing bandwidth when they are already leaders in worldwide bandwidth?

Great engineers? I have no idea. They make us look bad in the states though, so I say keep it up -- hopefully it'll motivate our guys to speed up my last mile.

Re: AWS drops bandwidth pricing

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Post by lsc »

nhoss2 wrote: post #13
timf wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just inbound, see the "previous" column here: http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2011/06/aws-lowers-its-pricing-ag...

oh ok, I thought "drops" meant get rid of but reducing is also great

Unlimited never is. I mean, there /is/ such thing as "don't worry about it as long as it's within an order of magnitude or so of what I expect" pricing, and that can often make a lot of sense on the low end or other places where the cost of the customer worrying about the bandwidth used is greater than the cost of providing that bandwidth... but this is not true of the 'at scale' uses of the cloud.

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Post by stoney »

sjwright wrote: post #29
abronte wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have a pretty big e-commerce scraping project, and we don't really run into many problems regarding blacklisted ip's. There are a few sites who we get consistent bans from, but with elastic ip's it's pretty much a non-issue. I have yet to see a site that ban's all amazon ip's.

I run http://whirlpool.net.au and I religiously check the Amazon EC2 forum announcements[1] for new IP ranges to ban. [1] https://forums.aws.amazon.com/ann.jspa?annID=1030

> I run http://whirlpool.net.au

An excellent and very useful forum! It seems like whatever topic I'm searching for, google(.com.au) returns a useful result on your site.

Re: AWS drops bandwidth pricing

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Post by zmmmmm »

I'm blown away. This radically changes the cost for one of my core products (automated browsing from EC2 machines). I've thought for a long time that EC2 was getting comparatively very expensive for bandwidth (simply not decreasing their prices). I thought they would have to change it, but I didn't expect free!

Re: AWS drops bandwidth pricing

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Post by rkalla »

Making all in-bound traffic free is a super-aggressive (and much appreciated) move.

As blhack pointed out Voxel's per-GB rate[1] before AWS dropped was extremely competitive, but they charge for in and out-bound data. AWS, after the 1st of July will only charge $0.12 for out-bound data and $0.00 for inbound data, effectively making it something like $0.06/GB compared to Voxel (I'm hand-waving this a bit to make a point).

Also as wiradikusuma pointed out, this comes right on the heals of Google's App Engine pricing structure change[2] to be more business-friendly (read: more expensive/more predictable billing) that upset smaller shops and individuals.

As someone who reads most of the AWS forums every night, I would say overall that Amazon seems to be responding more quickly to low level failures that used to run rampant on the system (although US-EAST still has more failures than any other region. I guess due to overload). They seem like they are hitting faster/smoother, sounds like a good time to push forward and grow which I imagine this move will help do.

Getting a little excited to see what the price decrease for per-GB billing on S3 will be in the coming months following this up (my assumption).

[1] http://www.voxel.net/pricing

[2] http://www.korokithakis.net/posts/app-engine-pricing-changes...

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Post by ben1040 »

baltcode wrote: post #16
Rickasaurus wrote: post #5

Amazon is now the #1 choice for web scrapers everywhere :)

I thought most AWS IP addresses were blocked by most admins. Does any one have experience scraping using Amazon.

I don't scrape, but I use an EC2 micro instance as a VPN endpoint when I am on an unsecured wifi network.

It's a little annoying that some sites block me solely because I'm coming in from AWS (StackOverflow, I'm looking at you).

Re: AWS drops bandwidth pricing

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Post by zaidf »

zmmmmm wrote: post #34

I'm blown away. This radically changes the cost for one of my core products (automated browsing from EC2 machines). I've thought for a long time that EC2 was getting comparatively very expensive for bandwidth (simply not decreasing their prices). I thought they would have to change it, but I didn't expect free!

I wouldn't be surprised if they put a fair use clause somewhere. Otherwise you could hypothetically run a fairly resource intensive bot that scrapes data 24x7 using up aws download bw for no cost.

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Post by shinratdr »

latch wrote: post #24
Joakal wrote: post #17

Why is bandwidth pricing higher in Asia despite bandwidth rates there being among the highest in the world?

In HK, I pay around $22/m (USD) for 100mbps. I can download from steam or apple at 5-6+ MB/s. I can download torrents at 10MB/sec. However, when I download overseas (which is most of the time), I might get 200KB/sec (unless it's from a serious player in CA). The point? The high speed you hear about in Asia is a half truth. When you consider that some of the Internet doesn't exist here (Netflix, ...), high latency (fo…

Have you tried something that doesn't have the overhead of torrents and can make many concurrent connections like a local HK usenet server?

Re: AWS drops bandwidth pricing

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Post by latch »

shinratdr wrote: post #39
latch wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In HK, I pay around $22/m (USD) for 100mbps. I can download from steam or apple at 5-6+ MB/s. I can download torrents at 10MB/sec. However, when I download overseas (which is most of the time), I might get 200KB/sec (unless it's from a serious player in CA). The point? The high speed you hear about in Asia is a half truth. When you consider that some of the Internet doesn't exist here (Netflix, ...), high latency (fo…

Have you tried something that doesn't have the overhead of torrents and can make many concurrent connections like a local HK usenet server?

I've gone up to 10MB/sec...which is close enough to the theoretical limit of 100Mb/sec. Locally the product works as advertised. But only locally.
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