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Re: Ask HN: How to negotiate continuing to work remotely?

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I am working my way though Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss.

He goes through some very powerful negotiating techniques and strategies.

If you are short on time, try a summary like this. It will help you will be better equipped for your negotiation when the time comes.

https://youtu.be/QIRk382yJm4

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post #185

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Also, the counter-offer to stay is not always that great either: 1. The underlying problem was still there — the management did not value your work to have a thoughtful policy that worked for both you and your employer. Rather than working with you, they chose an adversarial approach. 2. If you had gone back, they now know you can leave, so they will be looking to replace you as soon as they can, possibly even have y…

> 4. It is easier to get hired while you still have a job than while you do not. I'm curious about the reasoning behind this opinion. As someone outside of the US (UK), I've interviewed a few people who were unemployed at the time but with a good level of experience and track record. People deciding to take some time off to do their own thing has never bothered me, if they can afford it then I think everyone deserves…

It's easier on yourself. You don't have to stress about rushing to get a new job until the end of the month (or what have you).

That'll also make you more relaxed during interviews (if you do bad/ask for too much the stakes are lower)

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I'm a remote contractor, and my policy is to essentially work my clients time zone. Right now I'm 11am-7pm (I'm in NZ, they're mostly in Sydney, Australia). For a while my team was all in Malaysia, so I did 2pm-10pm. Hell for the right contract I'd work as far east as texas, mon-fri 10am-6pm for them, tues-sat 5am-1pm for me. No one asks me to do this, but it just makes life easier, and clients like knowing that I'm…

How do you get work in such diverse places?

I'm in a pretty small niche (agtech), which I think definitely helps me standout from other devs.

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post #279

1. the developer market is super hot right now, there are lots of jobs. 2. you seem a capable developer (i checked your personal website). i would approach the relevant contact at the company and ask if you are needed at the office 100% or if there is room for another arrangement, perhaps coming in for key meetings or a few times a month. if not, i would highly recommend looking for a job that supports you working as…

> the developer market is super hot right now, there are lots of jobs. Really? Doing that? Webshit?

Well for developers that don't negatively refer to others specialities as "webshit" then yes there's a lot of jobs available.

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post #54

CTO at Markforged here. If you can't work it out with your employer hit us up. We're hiring remote software engineers. We'll ship you a printer so you can dev from home. Good luck! Like a lot of other commenters have posted - you have options.

Thank you! Sent a message on LinkedIn, wasn’t able to get my email to send, tried David @ Markforged. If you accept my connection request I’d gladly send my resume over.

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Thanks for making JP Morgan's stance on WFH. I am thinking of switching jobs and this is helpful information.

Do bear in mind that JPM is enormous - 250k people isn't a size you associate with a company, it's a small country! - and although the rhetoric from the top is that everyone should be in the office because teamwork synergy efficiency managementspeak, individual departments may have more flexibility than this; although certainly fully remote is a very very unlikely option to say the least, arrangements where one works…

> although the rhetoric from the top is that everyone should be in the office...

In a software org, employees who don't code are always against Work From Home. Especially Middle Managers. If the top management is not pro remote work, there is less hope.

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post #44

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A 10 mil life insurance policy would require underwriting and, assuming you are healthy, will run between $60k and $120k a year. As a faceless corporate board member, why not just let you flounder while instructing management to find an engineer that is not as expensive? I think inflation is gonna bite a lotta people in the near future

> A 10 mil life insurance policy would require underwriting and, assuming you are healthy, will run between $60k and $120k a year. That's bonkers - a £10 million policy was quoted to me at £4.5k a year.

A term policy is more, I’m not sure what the rates are for non-term but I wouldn’t buy a non term policy. That’s literally throwing away money, but I guess from a business perspective it’s just a cost so you may be “more” right :)

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> Only 16k for a 25 year old but around 160k for an average 65 year old. I mean you can just go on a price comparison site right now for yourself and see that this isn't even remotely the price quoted for multiple providers and a wide range of levels of cover - nothing is even remotely close to even 16k.

I think those quoting huge costs are looking at whole life whereas the rest are looking at term life. Looking at one place, if you're 30 years old, and getting only 100K for whole life, the premium is over $1400/yr. Multiply that by 10 for 1M and it's 14K/yr. People often get these expensive plans because they can treat it as a retirement fund, and can borrow against it at any time with no penalties, etc. With term l…

Wow I’m paying 500/year for $1M 20 year term. That’s where I estimated my numbers from.

From my perspective term makes more sense. I will have a net worth over $1m in 20 years and that’s more than enough for my family to survive on. The insurance is mainly for my family in case something happens to me in the near term.

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post #197

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How would you know they're lying?

Most people really aren’t very good liars.

How would you know? Maybe you only spotted 1% of the lies people are telling you and you’re thinking they’re really bad at lying when they’ve effectively lied to you 99% of the time and you never found out.

Re: Ask HN: How to negotiate continuing to work remotely?

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It's a gradient. I saw this play out recently where a top engineer dictated he needed to work remote three weeks a month. Management was OK with it but were clearly disappointed because he is an incredible primary contributor, manager, and is part of the cultural bedrock of the department. Their argument to him was that his career development would be stunted, to which he replied "no, I don't think it will be." and l…

So be part of the 5% if you want that. Problem solved.

I know you're being glib, and I enjoy it, but there is some truth to this. Maybe a better way to phrase it would be, try to find a career where you are part of the top 5%?
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