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Re: Why does every advert look the same? Corporate Memphis

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Post by A_non_e-moose » Thu, May 13, 2021, 12:14 AM UTC

I was under the impression that Alegria was the name of this latest iteration on flat design: https://buck.co/work/facebook-alegria

Sure Zune and Material were there before, but I only remember feeling alienated by so-bland-it's-unrelatable designs since I started seeing all those Alegria iterated synth-cartoons everywhere.

Alegria or Corp Memphis, seem to have overflowed into children's cartoons, probably for the same reasons, easy to pump out designs, hard to be offended at, generic enough to fit most needs. I find this one particularly flat and bland: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PBE-W1TMeXI

Re: Why does every advert look the same? Corporate Memphis

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Post by notriddle » Thu, May 13, 2021, 8:03 PM UTC

rsj_hn wrote: post #161

notriddle wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/a1/24/fea1247eb6d9d47c6997... I... guess "celebration of beauty" is a good description, but let's be honest: it's insulting and artistically lazy.

The difference between the crude poster you linked to and the women portrayed by Mucha is enormous. I would say the poster you cited does not celebrate beauty at all. This one, for Trappist Liquor, does: https://www.allposters.com/-sp/Trappistine-Liquors-Posters_i...

> The difference between the crude poster you linked to and the women portrayed by Mucha is enormous.

I wasn't trying to character assassinate your favourite commercial artists. I was trying to claim that they aren't representative of the past.

Re: Why does every advert look the same? Corporate Memphis

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Post by olivermarks » Tue, May 18, 2021, 9:03 PM UTC

8fGTBjZxBcHq wrote: post #188

olivermarks wrote: post #186

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@wayoutthere In sociology racialization/ethnicization is ascribing ethnic or racial identities to a relationship, social practice, or group that did not identify itself as such. You will find lots of groups of people who aren't happy about being categorized then defended or attacked by people who are 'speaking for them'. The obvious current example is the overwhelmingly white US #BLM movement. If you go to a Californ…

> If you go to a California black neighborhood and talk to people they are v suspicious of BLM's motives. Have you done this? I live in a majority black neighborhood but not in California and I talk to my neighbors. I have heard a lot of skepticism and hostility towards _the organization calling itself by that name_. But not towards the movement itself or the phrase it uses to represent itself.

I have done this, yes. Your point is well taken: no question there is support for less racism towards black people (including racism amongst black peoples) but there is often deep suspicion about political motives of movements, from the black power 70's to the current Marxist BLM leadership.

Many POC are right wing of course, an inconvenient truth for people who like to think we live in a world of blue (good) versus Red (bad).

Re: Why does every advert look the same? Corporate Memphis

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Post by olivermarks » Tue, May 18, 2021, 9:04 PM UTC

wayoutthere wrote: post #189

8fGTBjZxBcHq wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you go to a California black neighborhood and talk to people they are v suspicious of BLM's motives. Have you done this? I live in a majority black neighborhood but not in California and I talk to my neighbors. I have heard a lot of skepticism and hostility towards _the organization calling itself by that name_. But not towards the movement itself or the phrase it uses to represent itself.

It’s a talking point from the right I’ve been hearing recently, along with “there were more slaves in Africa than the US”. It’s just more whataboutisms to distract from the utter lack of coherent policy from that side of the US political spectrum.

Do you seriously think there were more slaves in the USA than in Africa?! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa

Re: Why does every advert look the same? Corporate Memphis

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Post by chaosite » Mon, May 31, 2021, 7:28 AM UTC

olivermarks wrote: post #194

wayoutthere wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a talking point from the right I’ve been hearing recently, along with “there were more slaves in Africa than the US”. It’s just more whataboutisms to distract from the utter lack of coherent policy from that side of the US political spectrum.

Do you seriously think there were more slaves in the USA than in Africa?! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Africa

The person you're replying to did not at any point say that.

What he said was that deflecting criticism of slavery in North America by mentioning slavery in Africa is an attempt to mislead by distraction, i.e., whataboutism. Yes, there were horrible things done elsewhere; but that does lessen the horrible things done in the USA in any way.