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Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by MAGZine »

StavrosK wrote: post #103
jandrewrogers wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked on COVID epidemiology last year for a couple governments, so I am more familiar with the literature than most people. I don’t expect people to be as familiar as I am. However, the bane of my existence the last year have been people with strong opinions on “the science” on both sides that use “citation please” as a passive aggressive dismissal from a position of ignorance, and will promptly ignore any citatio…

It's probably easy for someone who knows what to look for, but I wouldn't even know where to start googling.

i literally selected "SARS-CoV-1 still have a strong immune response almost 20" from OP's questioning comment, right clicked, selected "Search Google for..." and the same article was the first result.

Nature is a reputable publication.

I think this boils down to internet folks assuming their conversational partner has the same level of knowledge they do, don't believe the other party, and then ask for proof, rather than educate themselves. The citation was trivial to produce.

"Citation needed," and it's cousins should be reserved for things that aren't easy to find. This is just embarrassing.

Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by sharken »

walterbell wrote: post #119

For those in the EU, the upcoming travel pass will cover three categories of people: vaccinated, PCR-tested negative, and recovered (i.e. positive antibody test of immunity), https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/all-your-questions-on-... > For travellers who have recovered from the virus: date of the positive test result, an issuer of the certificate, date of issuance, validity date The bureaucratic stumbling block…

Thus limiting those that are not vaccinated and making it difficult to move freely for them.

The travel pass is a horrible idea, that effectively will force many to be vaccinated.

That should not be the european way.

Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by baq »

mssundaram wrote: post #59
seoaeu wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've lost credibility because of a concerted effort to discredit them. An effort that was initiated specifically by people who didn't want to follow their broadly reasonable medical advice.

They did this themselves. Fauci, CDC and WHO constantly have gone back and forth between each other and themselves.

scientific approach requires changing your mind in presence of new evidence and when there's not enough evidence, there will be differences in opinions. duh.

Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by gls2ro »

sharken wrote: post #122
walterbell wrote: post #119

For those in the EU, the upcoming travel pass will cover three categories of people: vaccinated, PCR-tested negative, and recovered (i.e. positive antibody test of immunity), https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/all-your-questions-on-... > For travellers who have recovered from the virus: date of the positive test result, an issuer of the certificate, date of issuance, validity date The bureaucratic stumbling block…

Thus limiting those that are not vaccinated and making it difficult to move freely for them. The travel pass is a horrible idea, that effectively will force many to be vaccinated. That should not be the european way.

What should be the european way?

I ask this as I understand your concern about politics forcing personal decisions, yet I am not finding a pragmatic workable solution to the current crisis.

Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by azinman2 »

sharken wrote: post #122
walterbell wrote: post #119

For those in the EU, the upcoming travel pass will cover three categories of people: vaccinated, PCR-tested negative, and recovered (i.e. positive antibody test of immunity), https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/all-your-questions-on-... > For travellers who have recovered from the virus: date of the positive test result, an issuer of the certificate, date of issuance, validity date The bureaucratic stumbling block…

Thus limiting those that are not vaccinated and making it difficult to move freely for them. The travel pass is a horrible idea, that effectively will force many to be vaccinated. That should not be the european way.

Why not require vaccination?

Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by StavrosK »

MAGZine wrote: post #121
StavrosK wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's probably easy for someone who knows what to look for, but I wouldn't even know where to start googling.

i literally selected "SARS-CoV-1 still have a strong immune response almost 20" from OP's questioning comment, right clicked, selected "Search Google for..." and the same article was the first result. Nature is a reputable publication. I think this boils down to internet folks assuming their conversational partner has the same level of knowledge they do, don't believe the other party, and then ask for proof, rather t…

> i literally selected "SARS-CoV-1 still have a strong immune response almost 20" from OP's questioning comment, right clicked, selected "Search Google for..." and the same article was the first result.

I don't know why you think that's obvious. In fact, I wouldn't have expected that query to yield anything relevant, so I wouldn't have even thought to try it. That's what "knows what to search for" means, it doesn't strictly mean "coming up with obscure jargon keywords".

Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by jeduan »

sharken wrote: post #122
walterbell wrote: post #119

For those in the EU, the upcoming travel pass will cover three categories of people: vaccinated, PCR-tested negative, and recovered (i.e. positive antibody test of immunity), https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/all-your-questions-on-... > For travellers who have recovered from the virus: date of the positive test result, an issuer of the certificate, date of issuance, validity date The bureaucratic stumbling block…

Thus limiting those that are not vaccinated and making it difficult to move freely for them. The travel pass is a horrible idea, that effectively will force many to be vaccinated. That should not be the european way.

It’s always funny when white people find out about visas

Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by chrisco255 »

azinman2 wrote: post #125
sharken wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thus limiting those that are not vaccinated and making it difficult to move freely for them. The travel pass is a horrible idea, that effectively will force many to be vaccinated. That should not be the european way.

Why not require vaccination?

Liberty. It's a terrible a precedent to restrict freedom of movement on a forced personal health decision. It's basically subverting your body to the state.

Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by Jommi »

sharken wrote: post #122
walterbell wrote: post #119

For those in the EU, the upcoming travel pass will cover three categories of people: vaccinated, PCR-tested negative, and recovered (i.e. positive antibody test of immunity), https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/all-your-questions-on-... > For travellers who have recovered from the virus: date of the positive test result, an issuer of the certificate, date of issuance, validity date The bureaucratic stumbling block…

Thus limiting those that are not vaccinated and making it difficult to move freely for them. The travel pass is a horrible idea, that effectively will force many to be vaccinated. That should not be the european way.

Yeah just like anyone should be able to travel or live in Asian countries without the proper vaccines. Jeez.
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