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Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by takoid »

Causality1 wrote: post #23
macksd wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had this exact question and asked around before finding out a friend's brother specializes in immunology. Apparently two separate exposures triggers a much longer lasting immune response, and because of the nature of the vaccine it's much more targeted to one specific aspect of the virus, and consequently more potent in a way. Moderna also made a statement that they expected their vaccine to last for 2 years based…

They also measured significantly higher density of antibodies at the six week mark in people who had their second vaccine dose vs people who recovered from an infection.

Source?

Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by dsjoerg »

jandrewrogers wrote: post #28
daenz wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>People that contracted SARS-CoV-1 still have a strong immune response almost 20 years later. Could you provide a source for this please?

There are several such studies, all trivially discoverable. Here is one published in Nature last year, where they specifically also studied cross reactivity of SARS-2003 immune response with SARS-2019: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z Asking for a citation for something so trivially discoverable is a weird flex.

Meh, I dunno. My first lazy Google search didn't give me that result on the top. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=immunit...

Citations are cool!

Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by jessriedel »

jandrewrogers wrote: post #28
daenz wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>People that contracted SARS-CoV-1 still have a strong immune response almost 20 years later. Could you provide a source for this please?

There are several such studies, all trivially discoverable. Here is one published in Nature last year, where they specifically also studied cross reactivity of SARS-2003 immune response with SARS-2019: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z Asking for a citation for something so trivially discoverable is a weird flex.

The discussion is improved by having sources for key claims linked directly here. I'm glad the question was asked, especially since it was done so politely.

Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by seoaeu »

krrrh wrote: post #27
bpodgursky wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I'd like that to be true, I think it's impossible to separate that statement from the political pressure to motivate vaccination. ie, if the opposite was true — vaccination did not provide the same strength of immunity as infection — no epidemiologist would ever state this publicly. So I'll be happy if it's true, but this statement doesn't move my belief-meter one way or another.

The public health profession has lost so much credibility over the last year. No one should feel the need to reverse engineer latent preemptive anticipatory inverted Stockholm syndrome like this, but here we are.

They've lost credibility because of a concerted effort to discredit them. An effort that was initiated specifically by people who didn't want to follow their broadly reasonable medical advice.

Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by maxerickson »

seoaeu wrote: post #25
ed25519FUUU wrote: post #13

I’m very surprised that “proof of immunity” isn’t an acceptable alternative to a vaccine for things like travel or work. It seems it’s either vaccine or bust. Anyone know why this is the case?

Testing for immunity could easily cost more than the vaccine. Also most people haven't caught it yet, so you'd need to give them the vaccine anyways.

The antibody tests are like $5.

Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by joemi »

jandrewrogers wrote: post #28
daenz wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>People that contracted SARS-CoV-1 still have a strong immune response almost 20 years later. Could you provide a source for this please?

There are several such studies, all trivially discoverable. Here is one published in Nature last year, where they specifically also studied cross reactivity of SARS-2003 immune response with SARS-2019: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z Asking for a citation for something so trivially discoverable is a weird flex.

It's not trivially discoverable if you don't know the best terminology to search for.

Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by TameAntelope »

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #13

I’m very surprised that “proof of immunity” isn’t an acceptable alternative to a vaccine for things like travel or work. It seems it’s either vaccine or bust. Anyone know why this is the case?

Everything I've been reading about vaccine passports include some reference to having a positive COVID test more than X period of time in the past as an equivalent to a vaccine.

That said, there are few (if any) reasons not to do both, so at least for now I'm okay even if we did only push for vaccines-as-validation.

Re: Lasting immunity found after recovery from Covid-19

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Post by maxerickson »

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #13

I’m very surprised that “proof of immunity” isn’t an acceptable alternative to a vaccine for things like travel or work. It seems it’s either vaccine or bust. Anyone know why this is the case?

Are there any serious checks for vaccination?

I live in a small town and people here aren't very concerned, so I'm asking seriously if activities are actually being gated on vaccination.

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