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I get that this is instructions / data about a baddie that steals all written / spoken information about itself. Including the person who spoke it. BUT, what is the bit about half way down showing that you cannot share the pictoral data with people 0,1,2, or 3, but you can share with 4 and ... 0.5?
> SCP-2521 (also known as ●●|●●●●●|●●|●) is a Keter-level SCP not currently contained by the SCP Foundation. He is a creature who steals every piece of information about his nature, as long as the information is expressed in textual or verbal form. Because of that, nearly everything about him is registered by ideograms and pictures. from https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/SCP-2521
If I were working for the SCP foundation, I'd be putting some D-class personnel on the problem of figuring out where exactly the line between ideograms/pictures and "textual or verbal form" lies. Can you describe it in Chinese writing? A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebus ? Is the determinant whether any sound sequences used for human communication are being encoded? What about only using the purely pictographic Chi…
Information given in the SCP tell us that digitally stored files are affected to. That seems to mean digitally stored text.
Text in a digital form is just a way to indirectly reference pictures to be shown on the screen or printed. Sometimes it's a straight lookup table correspondence (ASCII), sometimes more complex (Unicode); there may be noise (OOXML). I'd guess that, in context of this SCP, a PNG with letters on it would count as text too.
This suggests that the issue isn't with a representation format, but the interpretation of it - or at least in a way the representation is processed by human minds.
I put forward a hypothesis that the relevant recognition criteria is words being recognized from sensory inputs by the human brain, and backtracking to most direct source of these words. This would explain the results of both documented tests. I propose following further tests to be made:
- Repeating Test 1, but blindfolding the test subject before telling them to write words down, so that they can't see them. Expected outcome: like in Test 2.
- Repeating Test 2, but instructing the test subject to not repeat the words heard out loud. Expected outcome: like in Test 2.
- Repeating Test 2 with the test subject incapable of hearing. Expected outcome: nothing happens.
- Repeating Test 2, using a machine recording sounds and replaying them after a delay, in place of the test subject. Expected outcome: nothing happens.
- Repeating Test 1, using a computer connected to a microphone and a printer, in place of test subject; the machine would run a dictation algorithm to print the spoken words. Expected outcome: nothing happens.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
This reminds me of an all-time favorite essay: https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2756 "We can ask: if consciousness is reducible to computation, then what kinds of computation suffice to bring about consciousness? What if each person on earth simulated one neuron in your brain, communicating by passing little slips of paper around? Does it matter if they do it really fast? Or what if we built a gigantic lookup ta…
Isn't this the same construct as Searle's Chinese Room ?
Some other Internet 'lore' rabbitholes: * SilvaGunner (also: Unregistered HyperCam 2): https://siivagunner.fandom.com/wiki/SiIvaGunner_Wiki * Pronounciation Book / horse_ebooks: https://77days.fandom.com/wiki/Pronunciation_Book_Conspiracy... * Cicada 3301: http://www.cicada3301.org I'm cataloguing some of these here: https://href.cool/Stories/Folkmeme Interested to hear about other favorites of yours!
LEMMiNO has a nice 18 minutes documentary and summary on Cicada 3301: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2O7blSSzpI -- Some "internet lore" off the top of my head: * Body builders try to figure out how many days are in a week, summary dramatised here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eECjjLNAOd4 * Time Cube: https://timecube.2enp.com/ -- EDIT: speaking of SilvaGunner, I've never heard this name before, I found two menti…
I thought it was crazy how many of these turned out to be mostly right (even if the explicit stuff about mergers and lawsuits was wrong)
> SCP-2521 (also known as ●●|●●●●●|●●|●) is a Keter-level SCP not currently contained by the SCP Foundation. He is a creature who steals every piece of information about his nature, as long as the information is expressed in textual or verbal form. Because of that, nearly everything about him is registered by ideograms and pictures. from https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/SCP-2521
Some other Internet 'lore' rabbitholes: * SilvaGunner (also: Unregistered HyperCam 2): https://siivagunner.fandom.com/wiki/SiIvaGunner_Wiki * Pronounciation Book / horse_ebooks: https://77days.fandom.com/wiki/Pronunciation_Book_Conspiracy... * Cicada 3301: http://www.cicada3301.org I'm cataloguing some of these here: https://href.cool/Stories/Folkmeme Interested to hear about other favorites of yours!
If you're interested in SCP, this game might also be of interest: https://store.steampowered.com/app/870780/Control_Ultimate_E...
Earlier quoted context omitted.
This reminds me of an all-time favorite essay: https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2756 "We can ask: if consciousness is reducible to computation, then what kinds of computation suffice to bring about consciousness? What if each person on earth simulated one neuron in your brain, communicating by passing little slips of paper around? Does it matter if they do it really fast? Or what if we built a gigantic lookup ta…
> What if each person on earth simulated one neuron in your brain, communicating by passing little slips of paper around? I do think this kind of group consciousness or meta consciousness exists, on many layers even. That's how society works.
We're just bigger ants, is all.
> SCP-2521 (also known as ●●|●●●●●|●●|●) is a Keter-level SCP not currently contained by the SCP Foundation. He is a creature who steals every piece of information about his nature, as long as the information is expressed in textual or verbal form. Because of that, nearly everything about him is registered by ideograms and pictures. from https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/SCP-2521
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