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4bpp wrote: post #86
geoah wrote: post #15

> SCP-2521 (also known as ●●|●●●●●|●●|●) is a Keter-level SCP not currently contained by the SCP Foundation. He is a creature who steals every piece of information about his nature, as long as the information is expressed in textual or verbal form. Because of that, nearly everything about him is registered by ideograms and pictures. from https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/SCP-2521

If I were working for the SCP foundation, I'd be putting some D-class personnel on the problem of figuring out where exactly the line between ideograms/pictures and "textual or verbal form" lies. Can you describe it in Chinese writing? A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebus ? Is the determinant whether any sound sequences used for human communication are being encoded? What about only using the purely pictographic Chi…

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Post by jerf »

silicon2401 wrote: post #32
jerf wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, if you're in the habit of taking such trips, I think I'd recommend considering very carefully whether you want to start reading through that wiki. There are some real-life, no fooling psychologically-hazardous things to read on there.

Any recommendations on those hazardous things?

Obviously, by the nature of the question, existential horror trigger warning. Further, bear in mind that your reactions may vary; none of these particularly bother me because for better or worse I have my own solid opinions on such matters.

A lot of people have a bad reaction to http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-2718 . An entire "canon" (collection of stories and sometimes some SCP entries) that can be similarly rough is http://www.scpwiki.com/end-of-death-hub . Here's a roughly-equivalent reddit question: https://www.reddit.com/r/SCP/comments/ai3aik/recommendations... & if you're serious, by all means feel free to post your question there, the community as a whole never tires of answering it (no sarcasm).

But I would just say in general that if you've got a "hole" in your psyche, hundreds of writers across thousands of articles will eventually find it. No joke. For instance, I'm sure a lot of people would just bounce off of http://www.scpwiki.com/scp-5045 but it spoke to me, probably because I've played rather too many video games from an era where those sorts of graphics were current and I've got neural pathways adding overtones related to the graphics that a younger person probably doesn't. (But said younger person might have found Herobrine stories legitimately spooky at some point.)

(5045 is a bit of a "format screw", which is to say, it has stuff hidden beyond the usual text, images, and clearly-labelled expandable drop-downs that most of the Wiki is built with. Be sure to click on the images as you go along. Most images in the Wiki don't do anything but many of these do. But not all.)

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Post by dogecoinbase »

4bpp wrote: post #86
geoah wrote: post #15

> SCP-2521 (also known as ●●|●●●●●|●●|●) is a Keter-level SCP not currently contained by the SCP Foundation. He is a creature who steals every piece of information about his nature, as long as the information is expressed in textual or verbal form. Because of that, nearly everything about him is registered by ideograms and pictures. from https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/SCP-2521

If I were working for the SCP foundation, I'd be putting some D-class personnel on the problem of figuring out where exactly the line between ideograms/pictures and "textual or verbal form" lies. Can you describe it in Chinese writing? A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebus ? Is the determinant whether any sound sequences used for human communication are being encoded? What about only using the purely pictographic Chi…

This reminds me of an all-time favorite essay: https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2756

"We can ask: if consciousness is reducible to computation, then what kinds of computation suffice to bring about consciousness? What if each person on earth simulated one neuron in your brain, communicating by passing little slips of paper around? Does it matter if they do it really fast?

Or what if we built a gigantic lookup table that hard-coded your responses in every possible interaction of at most, say, 5 minutes? Would that bring about your consciousness? Does it matter that such a lookup table couldn’t fit in the observable universe? Would it matter if anyone actually consulted the table, or could it just sit there, silently effecting your consciousness? For what matter, what difference does it make if the lookup table physically exists—why isn’t its abstract mathematical existence enough?"

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Post by olodus »

4bpp wrote: post #86
geoah wrote: post #15

> SCP-2521 (also known as ●●|●●●●●|●●|●) is a Keter-level SCP not currently contained by the SCP Foundation. He is a creature who steals every piece of information about his nature, as long as the information is expressed in textual or verbal form. Because of that, nearly everything about him is registered by ideograms and pictures. from https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/SCP-2521

If I were working for the SCP foundation, I'd be putting some D-class personnel on the problem of figuring out where exactly the line between ideograms/pictures and "textual or verbal form" lies. Can you describe it in Chinese writing? A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebus ? Is the determinant whether any sound sequences used for human communication are being encoded? What about only using the purely pictographic Chi…

It was actually for this reason alone that a top secret team of scientists came up with wingdings.

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Post by ChrisClark »

phiiiillll wrote: post #96
outsidetheparty wrote: post #68

SCP Wiki has really matured over the years; it started out as creepypasta and murder monsters -- many of them well-written, to be sure, and an interesting setting -- but still just basically straightforward horror stories. In recent years some of the writers there have really upped their game, they're tackling much more nuanced and complicated issues than "SCARY THING WILL DESTROY WORLD". I'm particularly fond of htt…

This is a good long form SCP read: http://www.scpwiki.com/antimemetics-division-hub

I really loved reading through this one. Such a great idea for a story.

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Post by sorokod »

dogecoinbase wrote: post #105
4bpp wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I were working for the SCP foundation, I'd be putting some D-class personnel on the problem of figuring out where exactly the line between ideograms/pictures and "textual or verbal form" lies. Can you describe it in Chinese writing? A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebus ? Is the determinant whether any sound sequences used for human communication are being encoded? What about only using the purely pictographic Chi…

This reminds me of an all-time favorite essay: https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2756 "We can ask: if consciousness is reducible to computation, then what kinds of computation suffice to bring about consciousness? What if each person on earth simulated one neuron in your brain, communicating by passing little slips of paper around? Does it matter if they do it really fast? Or what if we built a gigantic lookup ta…

Isn't this the same construct as Searle's Chinese Room ?

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Post by jvanderbot »

I get that this is instructions / data about a baddie that steals all written / spoken information about itself. Including the person who spoke it.

BUT, what is the bit about half way down showing that you cannot share the pictoral data with people 0,1,2, or 3, but you can share with 4 and ... 0.5?

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Post by pantalaimon »

dogecoinbase wrote: post #105
4bpp wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I were working for the SCP foundation, I'd be putting some D-class personnel on the problem of figuring out where exactly the line between ideograms/pictures and "textual or verbal form" lies. Can you describe it in Chinese writing? A https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebus ? Is the determinant whether any sound sequences used for human communication are being encoded? What about only using the purely pictographic Chi…

This reminds me of an all-time favorite essay: https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2756 "We can ask: if consciousness is reducible to computation, then what kinds of computation suffice to bring about consciousness? What if each person on earth simulated one neuron in your brain, communicating by passing little slips of paper around? Does it matter if they do it really fast? Or what if we built a gigantic lookup ta…

> What if each person on earth simulated one neuron in your brain, communicating by passing little slips of paper around?

I do think this kind of group consciousness or meta consciousness exists, on many layers even. That's how society works.

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