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Re: Amazon Sidewalk

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Post by TingPing »

justicezyx wrote: post #503
pupdogg wrote: post #374

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Higher-end can mean a lot of things, especially when talking consumer grade. I generally translate consumer grade high-end as being more aesthetically pleasing vs operationally. My expertise are more aligned with industrial grade equipment where size is typically not the limit. I've deployed a 16ft x 9ft high-res LED display for a customer in the past. That's something you don't normally find at BestBuy or even at th…

Let's say: Something that can match LG OLED CX 77 2020 model priced $3,099.99 I'd be happy to pay at the same price without the smart features.

You can't undercut LG, they control the oled tv market.

Re: Amazon Sidewalk

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Post by mrb »

Tech side: according to https://aws.amazon.com/iot-core/features/ the physical network seems to be implemented using LoRa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LoRa which has a range of up to 10 km in perfect situations (so more likely 1 km in urban environments)

Edit: actually maybe Amazon uses a proprietary version of LoRa: https://enterpriseiotinsights.com/20201208/channels/news/lor...

Re: Amazon Sidewalk

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Post by travisporter »

tw04 wrote: post #354
nine_k wrote: post #338

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I suppose that the smart part's hardware is below $10, it's not much more advanced than a RPi. OK, $20 if it includes a decent camera for video calls. But its presence can be sold for a hundred more, because the consumers apparently... want these features? Things like YouTube, Netflix, video calls, etc. And, of course, voice control.

> I suppose that the smart part's hardware is below $10, it's not much more advanced than a RPi. OK, $20 if it includes a decent camera for video calls. Citation? Because I find that assumption outlandish. I've watched them replace the control board in my 7 year old Vizio TV, the hardware is significantly better than anything but the highest end current RPi. Dual core cpu, quad core gpu, AC wifi, 8gb of memory, and t…

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/blogs/business-blog/2017/02/...

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Post by fouric »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #120
bregma wrote: post #99

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Less 1984 and more Fahrenheit 451. There is no central authority imposing this to exert control on the masses: consumers are imposing it on themselves willingly and industry is just giving them what they want. Juvenal redux.

> consumers are imposing it on themselves willingly Without reasonable alternative and without consent is like a LEO version of 'willing'.

The existence of "reasonable alternatives" is largely irrelevant. Firefox is a reasonable alternative to Chrome, and yet very few of the people I tell about Chrome's tracking switch - they just don't care. Same for Protonmail/Gmail, iOS/Android, Linux/Windows (yeah, yeah, not everything runs on Windows - nobody I know will even attempt to dual-boot and do what they can on Linux), dumb/smart TVs (yes, reasonable dumb TVs exist - the Spectres, most notably). This is a willingness issue, not a lack of reasonable alternatives, in the majority (not all) of markets.

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Post by dudus »

Interesting to see Tile on the list of devices. Tile is in a rough spot since Apple launched their product that is exactly the same but with a better network, better integration and better fine accuracy. Give me a sliver of hope for their future. Tile is doomed if this initiative fails.

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Post by vineyardmike »

julianlam wrote: post #223
me_me_me wrote: post #126

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Time to invest in companies producing faraday's cages for houses.

You jest, but all I'm thinking about is just how unpolluted the 2.4GHz spectrum would be if everybody's house had a built-in Faraday cage, and how nice that would be...

My father used a foil as part of insulation and the wifi in that house is amazing.

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Post by dividuum »

sneak wrote: post #544
ogjunkyard wrote: post #539

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Exactly. That's my biggest struggle with finding a TV these days. I want to make sure that the networking functionality is what I attached to it, not something built into the TV that I have no way of possibly disabling or removing entirely. With some of the relatively recent PiHole posts, it's become clear that some of these smart TVs are including some level of DNS resolution on their end to get around ad blocking f…

Just don't give it your network password, don't connect it to the wifi.

Ironic advice given what this post is about :}

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Post by kevincrane »

ActorNightly wrote: post #420
bredren wrote: post #292

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Amazon does not treat user data privacy as a core value. That means there is no floor to police those who use this network for data privacy. Beyond that, Apple mobile devices have the most efficient battery / processor compute on the market. Nothing to be said for mobile data use, though I would be interested to see analysis of how much new bandwidth usage results from participation. Also, I would expect Apple to be…

Is this a joke? Amazon certainly does treat user privacy seriously. When is the last time you have heard of any data leaks from Amazon? Meanwhile, Apple App store still is littered with apps that violate user privacy. Also, did we already forget about the celebrity photo iCloud leak due to poor authentication?

Amazon is the company that gives cops direct access to all the Ring video cameras scattered across the country right?

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Post by pupdogg »

ziml77 wrote: post #514
pupdogg wrote: post #486

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Amen. I also wish cars would just have dumb push-button or radial-knob controls vs a smart touchscreens. I'm a big fan of things that simply work and work for a long time.

I'd also love a return to physical controls, but my concern with the touchscreens is actually less to do with durability and more to do with tactility and muscle memory. Before I stopped driving altogether, I had a car with a touchscreen interface. It had more functionality than other cars I'd driven and I appreciated that, but it also felt more dangerous to operate at times. Dedicated buttons for all the controls mi…

I think that either style interface has its place and can co-exist with the other. For example, in a car, I would prefer to have physical controls for audio and anything mechanical (ie HVAC, wipers, ON/OFF,etc). However, when it comes to preferential attributes, vehicle/user/passenger related settings or diagnostic data/feedback, I would much rather prefer the touchscreen. This goes for things like instrument panel, monitoring tire pressure, situational awareness (sensors/cams), lights on/off settings, etc.
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