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Re: Ask HN: What passive income investments exist to supplement your salary?

#111

Publish books on Amazon. I've published 4 and make about $3k in profit per month, after paying for ads on amazon. Don't write them yourself, that's a lot of work. Instead, do key word research about what books sell in non-fiction categories (fiction is a whole different ballgame). Look for keywords that 1) auto complete in the amazon search bar, and 2) have less than 4,000 matching books, and 3) have an average Amazo…

https://www.forbes.com/sites/celinnedacosta/2021/12/28/pushi...

I looked the twins up. Looks like they've figured they can make more selling courses on what you describe.

A family member does FBA and does quite well. The book selling thing just sounds grim to me.

Re: Ask HN: What passive income investments exist to supplement your salary?

#112

I'm in the UK and there are quite a few services now that invest your money into property and infrastructure loans as peer to peer loans. I've invested in quite a few and see ~£50 a month as gains across the total set. I usually either reinvest or I pay out and buy into other investments. I could increase my exposure here but I think I'm at a comfortable level for my risk appetite. For me this is investing in propert…

Is £50 a sizeable return in the UK?

Re: Ask HN: What passive income investments exist to supplement your salary?

#113

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$1000 says he isn't.

Maybe. Looks like the OP says his books are pretty good with high ratings and a high volume of ratings as well, so they must be enjoyable enough to the people who buy them.

Selection bias. People who see OP's books in the search results and conclude it's a shitty book/something is off/etc are not going to leave a review (on a book they didn't buy) to say so. People who spend $10 and 4hrs of their time are inclined to not want to feel like they just wasted that and so will positively review something to reinforce.

Re: Ask HN: What passive income investments exist to supplement your salary?

#114

Staking cryptocurrency in a very conservative way has produced the following incomes: $4600 - 2017 $23,000 - 2018 $3700 - 2019 $2500 - 2020 2021 is shaping up to look like 2018 again but I haven't run the numbers

What's your ROI like? Do you have a big initial investment to get this kind of income?

Re: Ask HN: What passive income investments exist to supplement your salary?

#116

I use an automatic saving from my bank-account to a investment-robot that my bank provides that automatically buys shares in different funds, I would say it gives 10-20% back and requires zero effort, took less than an hour to setup

Which bank is that? Can you setup a ceiling?

Chase does this

Re: Ask HN: What passive income investments exist to supplement your salary?

#117

Staking cryptocurrency in a very conservative way has produced the following incomes: $4600 - 2017 $23,000 - 2018 $3700 - 2019 $2500 - 2020 2021 is shaping up to look like 2018 again but I haven't run the numbers

In how far are your investments "passive"? What does "conservative" mean? I mean, with ETFs I'd trust that eventually they will increase in value (again) but given the high volatility of cryptocurrencies, I'd probably be selling and re-investing at a much higher frequency. EDIT: Never mind, I now see your other comments and read up on "staking"[0] and "decred"[1]. Looks like I've been out of the loop. [0]: https://st…

"passive" in that I open up my wallet 1-2 times per week and initiate the staking process with my available funds. Takes like 15 minutes / week and I'm usually making coffee while it's happening, but really I should just setup the auto ticket buyer and leave my machine on 24/7. That would bring it down to 0 min/week given my rasp pi doesn't randomly fail

Funds that are locked randomly get called to "vote" (where I earn my reward) and re-enter my wallet so re-entering the lottery immediately would be more advantageous too

Also it feels passive because even though staking nodes need to be online at all times and require legit setups, I use delegated staking so I can select an operator which I pay a fee (0.5% in my case) in exchange for their redundant always-online setup so it's a painless ux

Re: Ask HN: What passive income investments exist to supplement your salary?

#118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$1000 says he isn't.

Maybe. Looks like the OP says his books are pretty good with high ratings and a high volume of ratings as well, so they must be enjoyable enough to the people who buy them.

I’m sure we can trust the self publisher of a ghostwritten unedited cost-first keyword-selected book to never employ fake reviews. He’s only here to provide what’s best for his customer.

Re: Ask HN: What passive income investments exist to supplement your salary?

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I just stake decred. Years ago I was much more ambitious and after losing money in multiple exchange hacks, and then losing nearly everything again in the ethereum DAO exploit, I will never again leave coins around outside of my own custody. Few cryptos let you stake easily while maintaining complete custody of your coins Last I checked, I averaged just over the current annual roi at about 5%, but back in 2017 roi wa…

Cool thanks for sharing. The volatility can get brutally expensive. I sell NFTs for ETH, which of course have to pay income tax on, but if suddenly ETH tanks.... ouch

Yeah.. After the 2017 ICO bubble popped I had to take out 6 months salary in credit just to pay the IRS. (The alternative was liquidating every crypto I held at a massive loss)

It felt like I wasted everything butttt never again! I've already sold 12 months+ salary from a few other cryptos this cycle (:

Re: Ask HN: What passive income investments exist to supplement your salary?

#120
Here's what we do:

- Max out 401k

- Automated contribution to Roth (up to max), can also use backdoor traditional conversion strategy here

- Automated investment into standard index fund, charles schwab has a robo advisor that will automate all this stuff for you, diversification strategies and keep in line with your goals.

- Crypto (10% risk exposure here, or more depending on your comfort levels)

- Own a home, have used market opportunity to take advantage of cash out refinance, reinvest into our portfolio, simple upgrades to the home and savings.

- Keep debt low or completely gone

- Don't buy expensive stuff

- Take advantage of community supported agriculture if you want to save on food (some places will give you discounts if you order for the whole year)

- For home expenses and major repairs you'll want at the minimum 3% of your loan per year on hand. Try and maximize this so you don't have to dip into credit

- Keep a savings around for other emergencies (if your health insurance plan includes HSA you can take advantage of growth opportunity here, where contributions here will grow against index funds if you can find the right product - health equity is one, fidelity also offers accounts). HSA withdrawals are tax free for medical expenses at any time. When you are over 50 you can withdraw from your HSA for any reason at all you just get taxed for non-health expenses at the income bracket (similar to other retirement accounts).

- save up for goals and things you want like a family vacation

- Minimize your subscription services

- Look into wholesale cell phone plans (Ting, Visible, Google Fi) it uses the same networks and generally can save you money on your existing plan.

- Build simple SaaS projects that can pull in even 3%-5%/year would be a great goal to go for. It's not income replacing levels, but it's enough. Use that to reinvest where appropriate (back into project, or into other areas of portfolio)

The goal is to try and have a portfolio that can beat standard inflation *and* lifestyle inflation.

You would think this is a lot of scrimping and saving but our expenses are quite low just using these strategies. One of the largest expenses we have is food and mortgage payments.

We are considering looking into rental income at some point when the market is in a little bit better buying opportunity. I have friend in Utah that owns a startup called Rentler that does property management as a service. It works quite well so we may end up using something like that to take care of rental investments in the future.

I realize not everyone is at this position in life but it’s basically the same strategy we have used until we could move to the next thing. We started out with minimizing our expenses and putting money away until we could buy a home. Now we have moved onto the standard boring investment strategies that should give a nominal rate of return (not looking for anything massive). After this, as mentioned, rental income might be next.

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