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The global chip shortage is starting to have consequences

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Re: The global chip shortage is starting to have consequences

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Post by mywittyname »

nradov wrote: post #175
wizzwizz4 wrote: post #128

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If you don't want a monthly car payment, start your “monthly car payment” into a savings account now. You'll end up paying less for your next car if you can maximise the up-front payment.

Current low interest rates on car loans make that approach a bit pointless.

They've been low for a while now too. As annoying as it is to have a $670 car payment each month, you really can't beat 0% interest on a $40k loan. Especially in a market where the average monthly return on $40k in stocks has been pretty substantial.

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Post by syshum »

jimbob45 wrote: post #163
dwighttk wrote: post #145

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If you don’t want a monthly car payment pay a monthly car payment so later you can have a smaller monthly car payment?

I think the idea is that you accrue the interest yourself instead of paying it to someone else.

Interest on savings accounts is far less than inflation, out side of an emergency fund there is little reason to save cash.

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Post by Snoozle »

NegativeLatency wrote: post #194
nradov wrote: post #185

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Smaller trucks are available for those who want them. Most buyers prefer larger trucks.

The Toyota Tacoma is now the size of older F150s, there aren’t many or really any good options for buying a small truck currently.

Can you give examples of model years and decisions to back up your claim? Last I checked this (common) misconception is patently false.

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Post by vlunkr »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #128
ineedasername wrote: post #124

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Most new cars still suck / Do not offer meaningful new features That really depends on how old your car is. I generally buy instead of lease, and run the car until it starts having regular problems. As a result, my car is 12 years old, and any new one from the last few years is a significant upgrade in terms of features. I don't really want a monthly car payment again, but I'm almost looking forward to when my curren…

If you don't want a monthly car payment, start your “monthly car payment” into a savings account now. You'll end up paying less for your next car if you can maximise the up-front payment.

Or save up enough that you can pay cash. I would think for the HN crowd it should be feasible. I think when you're spending money that's already in your account you make better decisions. Like you'll be less inclined to pay thousands more for an upgraded model with a bunch of superficial nonsense added

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Post by baybal2 »

reportingsjr wrote: post #59
AlexC04 wrote: post #20

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It makes me wonder if it would be possible to build a chip-manufacturing plant for any reasonable amount of money to produce these chips that don't need to be 7nm GPU powerhouses, but like the old clunker chips that can't get attention from the big guys. Almost like starting a "generics" business in pharma medication but for older chipsets. I'm sure there's a great trade to be had in producing the lower end stuff.

Most of the chips in these shortages are being produced on either older process nodes, or on slightly specialized nodes. The typical micro that's been hit by this is using anywhere from a 28nm to 180nm node. The trouble is, this is a temporary shortage, so it makes no sense to spend serious cash (you're talking hundreds of millions) to make a new fab when the demand won't be there in a year or two.

> The trouble is, this is a temporary shortage

It isn't. Designs on 200mm were in dire shortage for half a decade, and Chinese foundries were making very decent money on decades old chips.

For the last 3-4 years, 200mm-180nm had a 12 month+ backlog across the whole market.

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Post by istjohn »

ineedasername wrote: post #138

My wife just needed to get a new car, and the salesman was complaining that just as demand was starting to increase the chip shortage means they're barely getting any new ones in stock. And of course the popular models are the ones that are selling out the fastest, meaning people are holding off on purchases because they can't get what they want. My wife's was one of maybe 8 in the entire state that had the features…

There's a dead sibling comment stating that car sales won't be a job in 20 years. I would speculate that sales and other careers that are high-touch and relationship focused are precisely the kind of jobs that will be most resistant to automation.

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Post by mason55 »

dopidopHN wrote: post #117
frenchy wrote: post #77

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Yeah, though I would argue that smart kitchen appliances have a lot more going against them than smart tvs. - Historically, the TV has been used for playing media transmitted on radio waves, so an internet connected TV isn't a big surprise. - Television media formats seem to completely shift every decade or 2, so people are very used to buying something they'll throw away soon. - People usually take their televisions…

Not in the US, but back home I clearly remember moving countless fridges of friends to new apartment. But true that appliance seems to be attach to the houses here. And correct, smart things are private things because of the nature of their work. I have a fridge that my grand father used. And I’m not specially young. I love that fridge, simple and frugal in energy. I suspect the smart fridge and the like will come wi…

Not sure exactly how old that fridge is but I think it’s unlikely that it’s anywhere close to as energy efficient as an equivalent fridge made today would be.

Appliances have made huge strides in energy efficiency in the last 30 years.

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Post by fsflover »

MangoCoffee wrote: post #161
fsflover wrote: post #109

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So how much do USA-made mobile phones cost?

are we talking about assemble in the USA? any low labors cost country can assemble the phone. it doesn't have to be China. Foxconn already have a factory in India and Samsung in Vietnam. design can be done in the USA like Apple. component like corning gorilla glass is made in the USA. chips can be produce in the USA with Intel IDM 2.0 or TSMC in Taiwan. it will cost the same since you can outsource assembly

> are we talking about assemble in the USA?

No. Did you read the thread before asking?

> they both have semiconductor fabs!

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Post by BlueTemplar »

throwaway3699 wrote: post #2

I've always wondered what it would be like to suddenly lose the ability to build higher technology like computer chips. Obviously this is just a shortage and not the same as manufacturing just vanishing, but the effects will be interesting to observe.

There's an OS for that :

http://collapseos.org/

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Post by syshum »

vxNsr wrote: post #178
bredren wrote: post #98

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Since 14% of renters are behind on rent and evictions begin June 30, aren’t vehicle repossessions going to kick in July / August? Presumably, due in part to eviction protection, they have been able to divert all or a portion of their rent payments to keeping up with bad car loans for commute vehicles that often will not be needed. These folks need them for housing unfortunately. If repossessed cars start showing up t…

> Since 14% of renters are behind on rent and evictions begin June 30, aren’t vehicle repossessions going to kick in July / August? > Presumably, due in part to eviction protection, they have been able to divert all or a portion of their rent payments to keeping up with bad car loans for commute vehicles that often will not be needed. There are gonna be far fewer evictions and/or mortgage defaults than people think,…

It is going to come sooner than that, people keep talking about inflation "coming soon" I think those people are blind because it is already here.

Right now if we just get off with a little stagflation that would be a blessing, unfortunately I think it is going to far far worse. All those people depending on government checks are going to get hit hardest by the combination of inflation and the required austerity measures

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