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Archivists Are Trying to Make Sure a ‘Pirate Bay of Science’ Never Goes Down (2019)

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Re: Archivists Are Trying to Make Sure a ‘Pirate Bay of Science’ Never Goes Down (2019)

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Post by marvin »

alpaca128 wrote: post #31
lamontcg wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "proof of space" Chia cryptocurrency: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27009843

I'm starting to wonder what'll occur first: the bubble popping or the whole hardware market coming to a standstill because of 16 different "proof of xyz" schemes. I cannot wait for internet connections to become unusable after a currency introduces "proof of bandwidth".

Is it possible to create a «proof of pain» cryptocurrency, where holders repratedly stab themselves with sharp objects to increase their cryptocurrency balance?

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Post by alpaca128 »

someguyorother wrote: post #40
bserge wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Add them all together for the ultimate, proof of destruction: cryptocurrency backed by atmospheric pollution, fauna and flora extinction and natural resource exhaustion. Buy it now, it definitely won't last forever! :D Bu seriously, I still don't understand cryptocurrencies. So, your X discoin is worth Y million real money . But that's only while it's in cryptocurrency form. If people start cashing out, the value wil…

> Add them all together for the ultimate, proof of destruction: cryptocurrency backed by atmospheric pollution, fauna and flora extinction and natural resource exhaustion. Make a DoomCoin! It would keep 12 difficulty counters, one for each proof of whatever, and getting farthest ahead in one of them lets you mine a new block. That way it can distort the prices of (sorry, "effectively allocate") CPUs, GPUs, disks, ASI…

> Sounds like a good project for a comic book villain

Or a little story in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, describing how a civilization collapsed, not with weapons but by binding all their resources in a recursive speculative bubble.

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Post by I_Byte »

sneak wrote: post #20
I_Byte wrote: post #3

If you would like to help out you can seed some at risk torrents which can be found here —> https://phillm.net/libgen-seeds-needed.php For more information you can visit u/shrine’s original post here —> https://old.reddit.com/r/seedboxes/comments/e129yi/charitabl...

These are listed as fiction?

I should have clarified in my original comment, the torrents that say scimag down at the bottom of the page are at risk torrents containing papers from SciHub.

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Post by eleitl »

devwastaken wrote: post #36

Recently Mega took down a popular ethereum miner download for no given reason. Underground archival is much more difficult than people give credit for. Most vpn's being U.S. based are well within logging laws + secret court orders. TOR just this week had hundreds of exit nodes flooded in for an attempted deanonymization attack. It's tough times for being a data share.

IPFS is quite resilient, and work well with VPN as well.

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Post by IncRnd »

tmabraham wrote: post #21
walrus01 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something is starting to go really wrong in HDD pricing, following GPUs and other things, because I bought that same 8TB drive two years ago for $147. Hard drive prices are supposed to decrease in $ per TB over a multi year period, with advances in areal density.

overall electronics supply chain issues, and I heard something about cryptocurrency mining also being involved with supply issues for hard drives.

Yep. Chia coin has made many of these hard drives get purchased.

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Post by givepause »

einpoklum wrote: post #53

> Library Genesis is powered by Sci-Hub I thought sci-hub and library genesis were independent projects? At any rate, I applaud those who are willing to stick their neck out somewhat to stand up for all of us students, scientists and engineers who need access to the material on Library Genesis.

It should read (partially) empowered by Sci-Hub, since they host an archive of Sci-Hub.

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Post by sumgame »

bserge wrote: post #38
alpaca128 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm starting to wonder what'll occur first: the bubble popping or the whole hardware market coming to a standstill because of 16 different "proof of xyz" schemes. I cannot wait for internet connections to become unusable after a currency introduces "proof of bandwidth".

Add them all together for the ultimate, proof of destruction: cryptocurrency backed by atmospheric pollution, fauna and flora extinction and natural resource exhaustion. Buy it now, it definitely won't last forever! :D Bu seriously, I still don't understand cryptocurrencies. So, your X discoin is worth Y million real money . But that's only while it's in cryptocurrency form. If people start cashing out, the value wil…

That’s true for stocks too.

As people sell, value plummets

That doesn’t make it a Ponzi scheme

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Post by washadjeffmad »

na85 wrote: post #11

I've seen estimates of the total sci-hub/libgen size at anywhere from 20TB to 75+TB. Probably there are lots of dupes in there, and a dedicated dedup effort could reduce that size by a bit. But taking the upper end: A WD Black 10 TB platter drive[0] costs $329, which means it would take only $2700 or so to have enough storage space to archive what's basically the sum total of human scientific knowledge. [0] - https:/…

The non-Chia rate for HDDs is $0.15/GB. I'll add higher densities up to $0.18/GB, but not more.
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