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Archivists Are Trying to Make Sure a ‘Pirate Bay of Science’ Never Goes Down (2019)

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I've seen estimates of the total sci-hub/libgen size at anywhere from 20TB to 75+TB. Probably there are lots of dupes in there, and a dedicated dedup effort could reduce that size by a bit.

But taking the upper end: A WD Black 10 TB platter drive[0] costs $329, which means it would take only $2700 or so to have enough storage space to archive what's basically the sum total of human scientific knowledge.

[0] - https://shop.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-...

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What prevents metaphorical Trojan-infected copies of Photoshop from ending up in a science piracy site?

It's actually fun to entertain the possibility. How would you exploit this? It could be just replaced cryptographic constants in key papers... But it could also be some random psychological "discoveries" for the people to quote. A couple of "10-hour shifts considered very good" here and there, and the society will be completely brought to waste by the middle-managers unable to stop quoting them.

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post #11

I've seen estimates of the total sci-hub/libgen size at anywhere from 20TB to 75+TB. Probably there are lots of dupes in there, and a dedicated dedup effort could reduce that size by a bit. But taking the upper end: A WD Black 10 TB platter drive[0] costs $329, which means it would take only $2700 or so to have enough storage space to archive what's basically the sum total of human scientific knowledge. [0] - https:/…

You can pick up an 8TB WD black external for $200, and I saw cheaper WD EasyStore 8TB’s at retail in Best Buy today at $180, and that’s just what I saw offhand earlier today.

Re: Archivists Are Trying to Make Sure a ‘Pirate Bay of Science’ Never Goes Down (2019)

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post #11

I've seen estimates of the total sci-hub/libgen size at anywhere from 20TB to 75+TB. Probably there are lots of dupes in there, and a dedicated dedup effort could reduce that size by a bit. But taking the upper end: A WD Black 10 TB platter drive[0] costs $329, which means it would take only $2700 or so to have enough storage space to archive what's basically the sum total of human scientific knowledge. [0] - https:/…

> what's basically the sum total of human scientific knowledge

That’s an exaggeration. First, a lot of scientific reference books are not a Sci-Hub. Second, decades of published materials have not been digitized and are not available there. Third, very recent work (2020-2021) are often missing as well. And finally, there is a biais towards English and articles in other languages (for instance Korean, Chinese) are often not present despite being indexed or available on other networks.

Sci-hub is awesome and I use it almost daily but it’s not perfect yet and it’s not near "total sum of scientific knowledge" yet either.

Re: Archivists Are Trying to Make Sure a ‘Pirate Bay of Science’ Never Goes Down (2019)

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post #11

I've seen estimates of the total sci-hub/libgen size at anywhere from 20TB to 75+TB. Probably there are lots of dupes in there, and a dedicated dedup effort could reduce that size by a bit. But taking the upper end: A WD Black 10 TB platter drive[0] costs $329, which means it would take only $2700 or so to have enough storage space to archive what's basically the sum total of human scientific knowledge. [0] - https:/…

Wow the storage market has gotten distorted. Only a month ago I bought a 12TB drive for $235.

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post #11

I've seen estimates of the total sci-hub/libgen size at anywhere from 20TB to 75+TB. Probably there are lots of dupes in there, and a dedicated dedup effort could reduce that size by a bit. But taking the upper end: A WD Black 10 TB platter drive[0] costs $329, which means it would take only $2700 or so to have enough storage space to archive what's basically the sum total of human scientific knowledge. [0] - https:/…

You can pick up an 8TB WD black external for $200, and I saw cheaper WD EasyStore 8TB’s at retail in Best Buy today at $180, and that’s just what I saw offhand earlier today.

Chia Coin is driving up storage prices for the reasons other currencies drove up GPU prices

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post #11

I've seen estimates of the total sci-hub/libgen size at anywhere from 20TB to 75+TB. Probably there are lots of dupes in there, and a dedicated dedup effort could reduce that size by a bit. But taking the upper end: A WD Black 10 TB platter drive[0] costs $329, which means it would take only $2700 or so to have enough storage space to archive what's basically the sum total of human scientific knowledge. [0] - https:/…

You can pick up an 8TB WD black external for $200, and I saw cheaper WD EasyStore 8TB’s at retail in Best Buy today at $180, and that’s just what I saw offhand earlier today.

Something is starting to go really wrong in HDD pricing, following GPUs and other things, because I bought that same 8TB drive two years ago for $147.

Hard drive prices are supposed to decrease in $ per TB over a multi year period, with advances in areal density.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can pick up an 8TB WD black external for $200, and I saw cheaper WD EasyStore 8TB’s at retail in Best Buy today at $180, and that’s just what I saw offhand earlier today.

Something is starting to go really wrong in HDD pricing, following GPUs and other things, because I bought that same 8TB drive two years ago for $147. Hard drive prices are supposed to decrease in $ per TB over a multi year period, with advances in areal density.

There are currently supply chain issues in many different markets that will hopefully mostly resolve by the end of this year.

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If you would like to help out you can seed some at risk torrents which can be found here —> https://phillm.net/libgen-seeds-needed.php For more information you can visit u/shrine’s original post here —> https://old.reddit.com/r/seedboxes/comments/e129yi/charitabl...

These are listed as fiction?
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