Ursula Le Guin Books
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I read a Wizard of Earthsea as a kid, and looking back 2 things stood out to me. First is the diversity of the characters. It's not all white people, although I recall some TV/film adaptions were not particularly faithful to that much to Le Guin's disappointment. The other is a phrase that I still use to this day: "tired is stupid". Particularly when I've been debugging something for many hours, late into the evening…
"First is the diversity of the characters. It's not all white people" I read The Wizard of Earthsea when I was 11, and didn't even notice the race of the characters. I don't think much of it is made in the book. It's just a passing description. Much, much later, as an adult I heard someone mention it, and I went back and checked and sure enough they were right. But the characters' race had absolutely nothing to do wi…
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Because the science part takes a backseat to the cultural exploration. I guess that could be either fantasy or science fiction, but since it has spaceships it must be the latter.
A lot of science fiction is indistinguishable from fantasy if your swap positron-brained AI -> wise elves/demi-god, alien invaders -> orcs or an elven race (depending on how advanced the plot demands they ought to be, relative to humans), teleportation -> teleportation, non-real-world tech/discovery/invention required by plot -> magic. A few stories managed to straddle both genres (like the Merchant Princess series b…
I don't remember where I read it but what you just described is one of the best strategies for writing scifi that many of the most well known authors used. I'd wager it is the defining quality of science fiction from a historical perspective: it's a form of fiction that split the difference between vanilla fiction and fantasy that just happened to grow popular in the 20th century's golden era of scientific research. This was the era of boundless optimism with flying cars and the World Fair's Futurama so a fuzzy genre that took our world and changed one abstract thing or dialed it up to 11 (alien invasion! total surveillance! AI! galaxy far far away!) became science fiction because authors chose convenient plot points based on the cultural zeitgeist of the time.
On the surface the difference between science fiction and fantasy isn't all that big ("Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic") but I think fundamentally they're different approaches to imagining a literary universe. The former is based in reality but the "science fiction" part is a plot device to implement the one aspect of the universe the author wants to change, whereas in fantasy it's supposed to be a new universe whose rules/laws are only vaguely related to our own because the author just happens to also be human.
Edit five minutes later: Found it! Philip K Dick wrote in a letter (from The Collected Short Stories Volume 1):
> I will define science fiction, first, by saying what sf is not. It cannot be defined as "a story (or novel or play) set in the future," since there exists such a thing as space adventure, which is set in the future but is not sf: it is just that: adventures, fights and wars in the future in space involving super-advanced technology. Why, then, is it not science fiction? It would seem to be, and Doris Lessing (e.g.) supposes that it is. However, space adventure lacks the distinct new idea that is the essential ingredient. Also, there can be science fiction set in the present: the alternate world story or novel. So if we separate sf from the future and also from ultra-advanced technology, what then do we have that can be called sf?
> This world must differ from the given in at least one way, and this one way must be sufficient to give rise to events that could not occur in our society -- or in any known society present or past. There must be a coherent idea involved in this dislocation; that is, the dislocation must be a conceptual one, not merely a trivial or bizarre one -- this is the essence of science fiction, the conceptual dislocation within the society so that as a result a new society is generated in the author's mind,
> Fantasy involves that which general opinion regards as impossible; science fiction involves that which general opinion regards as possible under the right circumstances.
> Thus "good science fiction" is a value term, not an objective thing, and yet, I think, there really is such a thing, objectively, as good science fiction.
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I found the later books rather boring - she grew away from me. The book where we departed company, I think, was Always Coming Home.
I never even got to the later Earthsea books. I absolutely loved and treasured The Wizard of Earthsea , which I've read and reread many times over my life (something I almost never do with any books). The other two books in the trilogy: The Tombs of Atuan and The Furthest Shore were pretty disappointing to me, so I stopped reading Le Guin after that.
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#98https://learning.hccs.edu/faculty/emily.klotz/engl1302-6/rea...
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> People who consider something from the 1960's or 70's to be "too old" are really missing out on so much amazing literature. I completely agree. Personally I read fairly widely in a temporal sense, as long as the story engages me I'll run with it. I think the point I was trying to make is that a lot of folks can be put off by scifi thinking it's a genre brim full of space lasers, FTL space craft and nasty aliens and…
"But sadly it's been a long time, if ever (I haven't checked), since we saw any speculative fiction making it onto shortlists or winning prizes on say the Booker Prize[0], because it's not "literary" enough (bloody snobs)." Yeah, snobbishness is a huge problem in literature, visual art, and music... in all culture, probably. Some people want desperately to be the gatekeepers of taste, and unfortunately the rest of so…
Twenty or thirty years ago it was different, because the channels for discovery and discussion were so impoverished for anything remotely niche, but that hasn't been the case for a while now.
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#100I have a bit of a different take on Le Guin's best work. I couldn't get into The Dispossessed . I will try again, though. I read The Wizard of Earthsea when I was a teen and loved it, struggled with the second book ( Tombs of Atuan ) at the time, then returned to it 30 years later and now consider it a truly fine work as a story and an examination of religion, tradition, and belief. Immediately after completing Atuan…
I found the sudden transition to a pessimistic, depressing tone in Earthsea #4 hard to swallow as well. The criticism of the wizards' arrogance in #4 was indeed overdue but the whiplash was too intense for me. I strongly recommend #5 (Tales from Earthsea) though, it integrates the new ideas of #4 but more in tune with the original atmosphere of the world. And the plot doesn't depend on having read any of the previous…