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Analytics suggest 96% of users leave app tracking disabled in iOS 14.5

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Re: Analytics suggest 96% of users leave app tracking disabled in iOS 14.5

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Post by JKCalhoun »

justapassenger wrote: post #68

What a surprise. If I tell people going to the store that they choose to pay for the products, or not, a lot of people will choose not to. Who would guess that people like free stuff? Apple is disrupting whole economy for apps. It’s a very broken economy, with lots of questionable practices, that’s for sure. But we’ll see if it’ll be net benefit for customers. For sure for Apple, as more apps will have to move to be…

> Apple is disrupting whole economy for apps.

Not at all. Facebook can simply require you to enable tracking in order to use Facebook.

Re: Analytics suggest 96% of users leave app tracking disabled in iOS 14.5

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Post by zepto »

libertine wrote: post #83
justapassenger wrote: post #68

What a surprise. If I tell people going to the store that they choose to pay for the products, or not, a lot of people will choose not to. Who would guess that people like free stuff? Apple is disrupting whole economy for apps. It’s a very broken economy, with lots of questionable practices, that’s for sure. But we’ll see if it’ll be net benefit for customers. For sure for Apple, as more apps will have to move to be…

>Apple is disrupting whole economy for apps. I've been wondering why people aren't asking what kind of data is Apple itself collecting? Not only from users, but from the marketplace. Shouldn't users also give consent to what they share with Apple? Shouldn't businesses also choose to share info with Apple? This is gave us a sense of "justice as been done", but now we should look deeply into what the gatekeeper is doin…

> Shouldn't users also give consent to what they share with Apple?

They do. And it has been opt in for much longer than this new change.

Re: Analytics suggest 96% of users leave app tracking disabled in iOS 14.5

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Post by KoftaBob »

bradgessler wrote: post #71

“Allow Apps to Request to Track” [ On | Off ] That’s the setting in iOS under Settings > Privacy > Tracking. What does it actually mean? If it’s turned off, does that means that apps are tracking you since they don’t have to ask? If it’s turned on, does that mean apps have to ask and you can disable tracking per app? Something feels very strange about the way this setting is worded. I’d have excepted something like:…

If it's turned on: I want to individually opt in to app tracking, only for specific apps

If it's turned off: I want to opt out of all app tracking automatically

Re: Analytics suggest 96% of users leave app tracking disabled in iOS 14.5

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Post by ahmedalsudani »

phoe18 wrote: post #98
ahmedalsudani wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of people would be happy to pay upfront and keep their data.

Its not accurate though, Apple can and does still track users. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202074

Apple and ad companies are worlds apart.

Re: Analytics suggest 96% of users leave app tracking disabled in iOS 14.5

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Post by HumblyTossed »

bradgessler wrote: post #71

“Allow Apps to Request to Track” [ On | Off ] That’s the setting in iOS under Settings > Privacy > Tracking. What does it actually mean? If it’s turned off, does that means that apps are tracking you since they don’t have to ask? If it’s turned on, does that mean apps have to ask and you can disable tracking per app? Something feels very strange about the way this setting is worded. I’d have excepted something like:…

Apps have to ask. This turns OFF their ability to ask.

It really doesn't mean anything other than that. It's a binary decision.

Re: Analytics suggest 96% of users leave app tracking disabled in iOS 14.5

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Post by da_big_ghey »

mumblemumble wrote: post #53
the_snooze wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're probably joking, but the TSA has made that exact argument for their full-body scanners. >"The (body image scanning) technology is sent to the airports without the ability to save, transmit or print the images," said Greg Soule, TSA spokesman, in an interview with CBSNews.com. "At airports, the images are examined by a security officer in a remote location, and, once the image is cleared, they're deleted." http…

> The (body image scanning) technology is ... without the ability to ... transmit ... the images," > the images are examined by a security officer in a remote location oh dear. More seriously, at least TSA can at least make a proportionality type of argument, along the lines of, this invasion of privacy is justified on the grounds that it might save lives. Adtech is just going to use it to try and figure out how to c…

you see this wrong. TSA is infringement of our civil liberty by government, avoid flying is not much option in this day. comparatively easier for to avoid ad surveilance and install ublock.

Re: Analytics suggest 96% of users leave app tracking disabled in iOS 14.5

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Post by da_big_ghey »

pja wrote: post #43
the_snooze wrote: post #12

>The challenge for personalized ads market will be significant if the first two weeks end up reflecting a long-term trend. Adtech is basically highly-paid people sniffing your underwear trying to figure out what you had for breakfast. And they get all indignant when you say "hey cut it out, that's kind of weird."

Recently, a website I had only visited once somehow cross-referenced the cookies available through my browser to work out my email address & directly emailed me to invite me to sign up for their services. This has to be a GDPR violation, I certainly didn’t give consent for them to email me, but people are still doing this kind of thing apparently.

If company has no operation in Europe it is not realistic for to enforce GDPR against. This are true for many company and it not is a surprise that some do not care on any GDPR restrict.

Re: Analytics suggest 96% of users leave app tracking disabled in iOS 14.5

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Post by teachingassist »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #109
the_snooze wrote: post #12

>The challenge for personalized ads market will be significant if the first two weeks end up reflecting a long-term trend. Adtech is basically highly-paid people sniffing your underwear trying to figure out what you had for breakfast. And they get all indignant when you say "hey cut it out, that's kind of weird."

Ads are paying for something with tracking. Expect prices of apps to go up.

Alternative take: Ads give unethical actors a systemic advantage, where they are willing to slap ads on to their products that can't justify charging otherwise.

Expect more competition and higher standards as this artificial funding model is removed.

Re: Analytics suggest 96% of users leave app tracking disabled in iOS 14.5

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Post by hyperbovine »

I expected the number to be something astonishingly high based on FB's PR blitz over the past nine months. With their limitless resources, I'm sure they focus grouped and user tested this scenario to death before concluding that apocalypse was nigh. Rock on, Apple.
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