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Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018)

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Re: Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018)

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It's good to see these sorts of numbers, especially as a $BYND stockholder. :)

I've had more impossible burgers (from BK) than beyond, and I think I prefer the impossible taste a bit more, but only slightly. In a burger, with other toppings (tomatoes, mustard, onions, lettuce, etc)... the 'non-beef' taste is pretty minimal, in my experience, although I do notice a slight aftertaste. Haven't tried the new "beyond 3.0" which is dropping this week.

As a 'beef substitute' for every day cooking, haven't used it, but had other family members tell me they use the 'beyond sausage' (some spicy italian variation) in their everyday cooking to replace previous sausage use and they love it. They've gone totally vegetarian, have tried multiple meat substitutes over the years and think beyond is generally the best.

Have been trying ways to reduce meat consumption - going for blackbean substitutes in some situations, beyond/impossible burgers when available, etc. Not sure I'll ever go totally 'no-meat' but I do notice I have far less red meat consumption compared to 6-7 years ago.

I agree with another poster that the high sodium is a problem, and is possibly keeping some people away.

Re: Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018)

#82

While it is not my experience at all, I understand that some folks have certain negative opinions of Beyond Burgers, and other fake meat/imitation burgers: - The texture is off - Maybe they cook strangely - Potentially less taste But the most important thing about them, and the reason I urge everyone to at least _try_ Beyond Burgers, is they require no violence against animals. This is not an argument that fairs well…

It is possible to have so much empathy that your brain falls out.

I believe the phrase you're thinking of is "so open-minded that your brain falls out." It's still just a way to put someone down for caring about others, but at least the metaphor works.

Re: Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018)

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Genuinely curious; is eating something processed like this better than eating regular unprocessed ground meat?

Simple answer: No, this stuff is not good for you… get ready to shit your pants if you consume this lab goo on a regular basis.

I eat these on a regular basis and never experience this. This person is full of shit (literally apparently).

Re: Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018)

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While it is not my experience at all, I understand that some folks have certain negative opinions of Beyond Burgers, and other fake meat/imitation burgers: - The texture is off - Maybe they cook strangely - Potentially less taste But the most important thing about them, and the reason I urge everyone to at least _try_ Beyond Burgers, is they require no violence against animals. This is not an argument that fairs well…

But why would you want to replicate the outcome of a slaughter if that part of the process upsets you?

Why make an apple taste like the death of a cow?

For me eating things in their most natural forms seems more appealing. I don't know what is in beyond meat but avoiding processed anything seems like a more healthy strategy.

Re: Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018)

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Most of the ranch land in my area isn't really suitable for other kinds of agriculture so I don't know if that measure means much. It certainly isn't irrigated and I think the cows give back the water they use.

Does grassland really need to be suited for any kind of agriculture?

The prairies used to be one of the greatest carbon sinks in the world, storing as much or more carbon per acre than most forests. They were also a source of incredible diversity.

Cattle ranching operations transforms that carbon sink into methane gas to warm our atmosphere. And while the water is returned, the energy spend transporting and cleaning it isn't.

Re: Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a great time to plug MSG Is that the thing on the bottom of the label right before lark's vomit?

What are you talking about?

I guess I'm just getting too old with MP references...

Re: Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018)

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> No one needed to die for you to eat it. Except all those animals + insects that once inhabited the fields

More crops are grown to feed the livestock than people, so if you want to save the field animals and insects, going plant based will save even more.

Not sure this is true if you're looking at free-range though. There are many places which are not very amenable to growing crops fit for human consumption, but are more than adequate for growing the grasses (and more) that ruminant digestive systems (e.g. cows) can easily digest.

So if you're growing soy on deforested land as a base for your "cruelty free" burger, it is very possible that this has damaged the original ecology (and killed living things) more than having grazing cattle would.

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