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Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018)

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Re: Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018)

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Beyonds sausages imo are much better than their burger. Impossible is the real burger king in this category

Didn't know they did sausages. That could be a decent market to tackle. We don't typically make burgers at home, but we do often buy simple sausages as a quick meal for the kids. Usually the supermarket choice is premium sausages with more exotic combos (that I like but the kids don't), or basic plain ones which always seem a bit miserable. If we're buying plain sausages, might as well get something like this instead.

Re: Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018)

#53
post #29

Land usage is a totally useless metric for the impact of beef production, because we can (and do) raise cattle on land that's basically useless for anything else.

But we use SO much land to grow the food that cattle eat. It's not a useless metric at all.

Yes, and? We're not using it for anything else. Saving 93% of the arid scrubland we use to raise cattle in the US wouldn't benefit us in any way.

OTOH, growing soy and other plant protein sources used for fake meat requires high-quality land and is extremely taxing on the soil.

As an interesting reference, take a look at how farmers in Brazil use deforested Amazon land to graze cattle only after depleting the soil to grow soy for a few years, at which point it is inhospitable to plant agriculture.

Re: Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018)

#56
According to https://waterfootprint.org/en/water-footprint/product-water-... , beef has a ~50x water footprint compared to vegetable.

It's hard to understand what "99% less impact on water scarcity" means but surely beyond meat can't use less water than vegetables? (since beyond meat is plant based)

Re: Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018)

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post #29

Land usage is a totally useless metric for the impact of beef production, because we can (and do) raise cattle on land that's basically useless for anything else.

But we use SO much land to grow the food that cattle eat. It's not a useless metric at all.

The food that ruminants eat are mostly non-human edible leftovers, so they effectively reduce waste.

Re: Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018)

#58

While it is not my experience at all, I understand that some folks have certain negative opinions of Beyond Burgers, and other fake meat/imitation burgers: - The texture is off - Maybe they cook strangely - Potentially less taste But the most important thing about them, and the reason I urge everyone to at least _try_ Beyond Burgers, is they require no violence against animals. This is not an argument that fairs well…

It is possible to have so much empathy that your brain falls out.

I don't know what this means, can you clarify?

Re: Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018)

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So is that comparing against plain red meat with no salt added? Because if so that’s not really a fair comparison because you generally add a decent amount of salt to burger whereas you don’t really need to for beyond

This is a great time to plug MSG... the delicious umami flavor wrapped up in one delish ingredient. I never used salt much growing up at home - we always used Aromat! I was shocked to learn that most of the world doesn't use Aromat! Everyone go buy Aromat! It's delicious but unfortunately seems to be mostly popular for Swiss and South Africans! It's perfect on tomatos

Aromat is great, but salt is the #1 ingredient in it.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61RLf5EZveL...

Re: Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger life cycle assessment (2018)

#60

While it is not my experience at all, I understand that some folks have certain negative opinions of Beyond Burgers, and other fake meat/imitation burgers: - The texture is off - Maybe they cook strangely - Potentially less taste But the most important thing about them, and the reason I urge everyone to at least _try_ Beyond Burgers, is they require no violence against animals. This is not an argument that fairs well…

> No one needed to die for you to eat it.

Except all those animals + insects that once inhabited the fields

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