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Re: Starting a crypto project

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> It's awful, and I guess we're only going to see this over once Bitcoin is surpassed by Dogecoin (I'm sure this will happen), and then Dogecoin gets surpassed by any other stupid shitcoin out there. Just pointing out that both Doge and BTC are proof of work and consume energy in similar style with the mining process.

Yes, like most if not all current cryptos: it's either stupid energy waste or fraud.

Not true, most stuff launching these days is either PoS or migrating.

Re: Starting a crypto project

#102
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Hmm whats the UNI token for then?

It's a governance token, meaning you can use it to participate in non-binding votes about what the developers do.

It's a governance token today, but it will likely become a capital asset earning revenue from the Uniswap protocol at some point.

Re: Starting a crypto project

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As someone interested in all of cryptography, I cringe every single time when we call blockchain "crypto". Sure, there's cryptography in it. But you don't call a mail or http server "crypto". There's similar tech in git, we don't call it "crypto", we call it VCS. Calling this "crypto" is just trying to add a mystic aura for stuff people don't understand, to further muddy the waters. We have a word for this technology…

It's like people will create their own desired footpaths over fields when the sidewalks are not in the right place, so it seems the word "crypto" is just a shortcut because there aren't any shorter words to describe blockchain.

Re: Starting a crypto project

#104
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> Most of the projects with the highest market cap in the space either don't do anything, don't plan on doing anything and don't have any purpose. The second most valued crypto-currency is Ethereum. And the entire ecosystem around it does plan on doing a lot of things, starting with decentralised finance. There are also efforts to layer a network on top of Bitcoin in a bid to counter-act Ethereum. And competing netwo…

I said most because indeed most of the innovation, both technical and cultural originates from Ethereum. But DOGE, XRP, ADA, LTC, BCH, TRON, ETC. EOS, NEO, BSV are all in the top 25 and have nothing to show for it despite being some of the oldest players in the space. The L2 projects on Bitcoin are not new and they've never brought anything revolutionary. And I think BTC is fine without L2, it's a very different phil…

> BSC, whose sole purpose is to make scams out of ETH projects and run them on a centralized chain, sits close to 100 billion dollars

Scams are big business, but that just illustrates how delusional and bubbly these are; is BSC, a thing I'd never heard of before, really of equivalent value to .. Square? Lockheed Martin? Target? AirBnB? AMD? NTT? Uber?

https://companiesmarketcap.com/page/2/

Re: Starting a crypto project

#105
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Take a look at Sologenic. Sologenic is a fronted for the DEX. AFAIK they have no legal obligation to limit who is using it at all. The DEX as as its name says is decentral, they can not control it. They just make software that lets users use it. They can also not directly take fees because the DEX does not have fees (you make things decentral to remove the lurking middlemen who takes the fee) IDK how Sologenics busin…

I'm not necessarily sold on the idea of making products without business models. My lawyers so far have told me somewhat different things from "if it's all crypto then you have no KYC obligations"

I'm sure they have one but these days you offer something for free first to gain users and make you product as premium as possible so you can actually expect someone to pay for it.

>"if it's all crypto then you have no KYC obligations"

Yes, its not that simple but this thread is not legal advice anyway

Re: Starting a crypto project

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Where is a place to get a broader perspective on this? I've tried subreddits for some of the projects, the cryptocurrency subreddit, and google and youtube. I have a lot of difficulty cutting through the noise. (My sense is that projects like Ethereum could be extremely valuable but that its value is currently hurt by the speculation on Ether making transactions far too costly. I'd be very interested in getting expos…

I would add Andreas Antonopoulos's video, as well as the What Bitcoin Did podcast as good starting points. Also check out the book, Inventing Bitcoin.

What Bitcoin Did is run by a toxic Bitcoin maximalist who is totally clueless about the tech and is only in it for the money.

Check out Bankless and The Daily Gwei.

Re: Starting a crypto project

#107
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That's why it's the investment space that needs disruption - which is why crypto is met with so much pushback on HN. A year ago, crypto-related stories made front page much less often, if at all.

Because people here try to understand the technology and its usage before riding the hype train. Most people investing in Ether for example have no idea what it even means. But when you ask them they would spit answers like "it's going to revolutionize finance..". When you ask them how, they have no answer. When you ask them for specific applications that they know of outside of the stupid NFT, they send you to Googl…

There are plenty of useful applications on Ethereum. Maker, Compound, Aave, dYdX, Synthetix, UMA, Uniswap to name very few.

Re: Starting a crypto project

#108

This is a brilliant thread and sums up neatly what's wrong with crypto space in general. > 90% of your telegram/discord are scammers and people asking why price is going down/accusations that you and your entire team should go to jail. So much this. The greed of get-rich-quick crowd is the biggest hurdle in the success of crypto. Remove the incentives from crypto projects and you'll see how the interest from general…

It's also one of its biggest strengths. People with real value at stake in an ecosystem will do anything possible to increase the value of their holdings, which means making the overall ecosystem more valuable through individual and team contributions, all open source contributions I might add.

Re: Starting a crypto project

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Here is a free tip if you want to do it anyway. DON'T CREATE ANOTHER F**ING TOKEN! Build you product on an existing reliable fast and cheap blockchain that fits your needs. Focus on the product not the price of tokens on said DLT. You dont need a token. No, really you dont. Your tokens only use case is likely to transfer value and guess which token can do this better than yours? All of them! Simply because they alrea…

> You dont need a token. No, really you dont. Your tokens only use case is likely to transfer value Other way round: transferring value to yourself is the only use case . If you take a second to look in the mirror and see the wreckage of previous startups in this space, you'll see that - as pointed out in the OP thread - 99% of the community is there for the pump and dump. For all the practical purposes, distributed…

Sounds to me as if you dont have any "blockchain project" ideas. That's fine do something else. If whatever you every wished to crate does not profit form this tech, it probably really just does not profit form it. Nothing wrong with that. It would be a shame to slap blockchain on a cool project that doesn't need it.

Re: Starting a crypto project

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Because people here try to understand the technology and its usage before riding the hype train. Most people investing in Ether for example have no idea what it even means. But when you ask them they would spit answers like "it's going to revolutionize finance..". When you ask them how, they have no answer. When you ask them for specific applications that they know of outside of the stupid NFT, they send you to Googl…

There are plenty of useful applications on Ethereum. Maker, Compound, Aave, dYdX, Synthetix, UMA, Uniswap to name very few.

Thanks. I will take a look.
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