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Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by lunatuna »

nickysielicki wrote: post #17

The world is a scary and violent place. Without Liveleak, you might never feel it. Until you see the actual violence and gore, it doesn't mean anything, it's just empty words. I didn't care at all about wars in the middle east until I saw the reality on Liveleak. Seeing dead children and people with their legs blown off made all the commentary on CNN and Fox seem so understated. A lot is said about desensitization as…

For me it was seeing close ups of the Chechnyan war. I couldn’t believe what people were doing to each other. It has made the anarchy of war something to be avoided at all costs. Clearly showing that there are no winners on the ground. Soldiers shooting 3 generations of a family unarmed, soldiers having their heads clumsily chopped off with an axe.

I’ve avoided all of the not safe for life type stuff since, but agree that these are important things to see. With all the wars since and the easy images found on western news at least I know what is happening outside of what they are willing to show.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by boomboomsubban »

acituan wrote: post #60
nickysielicki wrote: post #17

The world is a scary and violent place. Without Liveleak, you might never feel it. Until you see the actual violence and gore, it doesn't mean anything, it's just empty words. I didn't care at all about wars in the middle east until I saw the reality on Liveleak. Seeing dead children and people with their legs blown off made all the commentary on CNN and Fox seem so understated. A lot is said about desensitization as…

> The world is a scary and violent place. Without Liveleak, you might never feel it. Counter-point; the world is mostly a neutral, even OK, place, with also violence in it. Our cognition is heavily biased towards saliencing and preserving the scary bits, and being exposed to a planet scale showcase of those bits does not necessarily make us wiser (e.g. better decision makers). At least for me personally it took a dec…

>it also had an inherent grounding in bare reality, compared to the narratively embellished one of mainstream media

I disagree. It will only show one side of the bare reality, as the actions taken by more organized militaries will prevent their footage from ending up there. An Al Qaeda execution could end up on there, but the video of the execution of someone like Bin Laden rarely would.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by LightMachine »

stu2b50 wrote: post #98
throw_m239339 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only thing Reddit is killing right now is Reddit itself, with their odd UX redesign decisions. Also, Reddit went from being a place with a lot of room for freedom of speech to a place that disallow a lot of discussions on different opinions and wedge issues. Even Twitter is now more open to diversity of opinions.

No, the 1-2 punch of Reddit and Discord have all but decimated the old vBulletin forum days. If you have a niche interest, Reddit and Discord are pretty much the only place to find a community for it. It's very dominant in that space now. I'm pretty much forced to use Reddit or else disconnect from communities I'm interested in.

How do you find Discord servers for a specific interest?

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by ilugaslifk »

causality0 wrote: post #77
spoonjim wrote: post #55

Four LiveLeak videos will always stay in my head. WARNING: even in text this stuff is horrifying. Stop reading if you don’t want to have nightmares. 1) an ISIS video where a 7 year old kid or so goes through a building where a bunch of hostages are tied up. He shoots them dead in succession. He looks like he’s about to cry throughout the whole video — but he doesn’t. 2) a completely covered up woman(?) in Iran is exe…

LiveLeak definitely had the ability to change you. There was a video from a dashcam where a couple is driving down a road, and a brick or rock falls off a truck driving the opposite way. It bounces on the road before slamming through the windshield and instantly killing the wife sitting in the passenger seat. Whenever I feel like a member of my family has gotten on my last nerve, pushed me to my limit, I think of the…

That exact video changed my life in exactly the same way.

Thank you for putting it so well.

RIP LiveLeak. Its loss is a tragedy that is hard to quantify. Perhaps a catastrophe, that nobody will ever understand the full invisible scale of.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by dukeofdoom »

CyberDildonics wrote: post #53
throwawaysea wrote: post #11

That’s really sad. They were one of the few platforms that would carry content honestly no matter how offensive it might be. With how overwhelming the scope and influence of big tech platforms like YouTube are, free speech has few homes left.

Free speech has the entire internet, just don't expect giant public corporations to broadcast and amplify conspiracy theories. No one expects youtube to host porn or gore, but when they take down covid deniers and mass shooting conspiracies people think they are entitled to youtube hosting them.

Very few deny Covid exists. Many More are skeptical of the vaccine. Because of things like this happened before. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide_scandal

The idea of informed consent, is you get to know the benefits and risks of any medicine.

Skepticism is valuable too. If anything, human history is littered with dead bodies of those that blindly went along and listened to those in authority.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by joshxyz »

nickysielicki wrote: post #17

The world is a scary and violent place. Without Liveleak, you might never feel it. Until you see the actual violence and gore, it doesn't mean anything, it's just empty words. I didn't care at all about wars in the middle east until I saw the reality on Liveleak. Seeing dead children and people with their legs blown off made all the commentary on CNN and Fox seem so understated. A lot is said about desensitization as…

Sites like that made me more careful about driving, especially on wearing seatbelts good lord.

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by david_allison »

LightMachine wrote: post #114
stu2b50 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the 1-2 punch of Reddit and Discord have all but decimated the old vBulletin forum days. If you have a niche interest, Reddit and Discord are pretty much the only place to find a community for it. It's very dominant in that space now. I'm pretty much forced to use Reddit or else disconnect from communities I'm interested in.

How do you find Discord servers for a specific interest?

Typically from the subreddit

Re: LiveLeak shuts down after 15 years online

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Post by eigen »

abhishekjha wrote: post #44
irjustin wrote: post #28

Mixed feelings from me. I remember the Hussein video. I never believed in the vision, but they hosted important events I simply could not see from other sites. Reddit users rely on it and I knew what I was getting into if I clicked on a LiveLeak link. Separately, being a content moderator for LL must be absolute hell. While you must filter for illegal things, you're actually expected to watch through the death and go…

Is there any study or papers on people who actively go through such content? What changes about them after?

some news stories about various content moderator positions paint a picture that isnt great for the people working the job.

https://www.wired.com/2014/10/content-moderation/

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/04/facebook-...

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/01/737498507/for-facebook-conten...

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