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Unless you have a link to the article from that time I'm going to guess that is a false memory or something unrelated.

I'm pretty sure I read a very accurate post on /r/wallstreetbets about covid-19 in late 2019/early 2020.

I remember someone made a joke about how there were pandemics in 1920, 1820 and 1720, and another user commented that there is a weird flu in some Chinese city. This was either in the last week of 2019 or very early 2020.

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I do wonder if it’s possible that vaccines that are designed to make the body produce certain parts of the spike protein could lead to prion diseases accidentally. Are we sure of the proteins coded for and also that this coding can’t produce misfolded proteins? It’s pretty unlikely but also we don’t have long term testing of these proteins in the body. * please note I’ve had the first dose of Astra Zeneca and intend…

Seems like prions only "infect" the same kind of protein, so a misfolded spike protein that the vaccine might produce would only cause other spike proteins to misfold, and they almost surely don't occur naturally in human tissue so there should be no risk at all.

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Prion diseases terrify me. Especially having been in the UK eating beef at the time of the BSE outbreaks in the 1990s. I wonder if there have been studies on the scale of potential latent vCJD/Prion disease in the population?

There is ongoing surveillance from the National CJD Research & Surveillance Unit: https://www.cjd.ed.ac.uk/sites/default/files/figs.pdf

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You really want to give anti-vaxxers more ammo over a "potential risk"? But welcome to HN.

Yeah, well unfortunately there are anti-vaxxers but people who have genuine concerns over the long term safety of a completely experimental vaccine will be labeled as antivaxx to.

Yes, it's a terrible idea to label them that way, so let's not. Still, we all bear some responsibility in keeping society sane, which might mean just declining to talk about evidence like this until it's solid.

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I journal daily and like to capture the news among my daily record. The first time I found COVID/Coronavirus mentioned by BBC News was January 3rd 2020 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50984025 . It is of course possible I missed a story but before January 3rd there was little to no mainstream news coverage. It is quite frustrating to find accurate articles now as many sites are falsely returned in date rang…

On January the 4th their were posters (printed A4) up on Public Transport in Hong Kong. I remember thinking it was very strange - I had heard a story on the BBC world service the night before. The posters warned of a "Novel Pneumonia from Southern China". How the world changed...

How it changed indeed! Reading my journal for the first four months of 2020 is fascinating. I must have read over those first few months ten times since. So much has happened with advice and guidance changing as we learn more about the virus and the disease. So much mis- and disinformation. Crazy behaviours all over. I am so glad I keep a journal as it will be quite something to read back in a decade or two.

Especially for my 8 year old son. He is old enough to understand things are not normal but young enough to not fully understand the gravity of the situation or have memories of much outside of his little bubble.

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Whenever a topic about something that could potentially destroy humanity comes up (say, climate issues), there is always some comment that makes a reasonable argument of why things are not as bad as they seem. This never happens when prions are the topic.

Actually, there is some good news. Many types of prions diseases do not spread from animals to humans (so far). There have been some studies around this with CWD, but also Scapie has been around for hundreds or even thousands of years and never made the jump. Even in areas with CWD, we see that herd numbers do typically rebound. It's believed that there is some genetic factor that prevents the onset of the symptoms,…

Not to be a doomer but there are scenarios where neither genetic variation nor research would solve the problem. The correct mix of virality, incubation and lethality would do it. Pneumonic plague is terrifyingly close. I wish there was a bigger interest and investment in biology, I think it’s the only viable path forward for humanity.

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I had read this before. It's horrifying. How do you stop the chain reaction of proteins folding into lower energy states? It's not like a bacteria or virus; it's more like ice-nine, except instead of water it's your brain.

Bleach works as surface decontamination agent. They know it works for CWD, and I expect it works for others too.

> Bleach works as surface decontamination agent. They know it works for CWD, and I expect it works for others too.

I remember reading that nothing but incineration would work in the context of Food-and-Mouth disease, but it seems modern techniques in brain surgery do use bleach. Interesting.

Essentially, the only thing that works is disintegrating the prions. You can't wash them off, since you're simply washing them into the water cycle. You can't deal with them in a way that preserves other biological matter, since they are proteins, disintegrating them means disintegrating any other proteins in that area.

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I do wonder if it’s possible that vaccines that are designed to make the body produce certain parts of the spike protein could lead to prion diseases accidentally. Are we sure of the proteins coded for and also that this coding can’t produce misfolded proteins? It’s pretty unlikely but also we don’t have long term testing of these proteins in the body. * please note I’ve had the first dose of Astra Zeneca and intend…

I’m wondering if the original Covid infection runs the risk for latent prion issues too —

There’s just no reason for the mass hysteria from governments from what I’ve seen spread amongst my friends - and I run dangerously close to leaving the “anecdotal data gravity well” with how many observations I’ve tracked, deaths included.

It felt like they were withholding some long term effects to keep everyone calm.

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I had read this before. It's horrifying. How do you stop the chain reaction of proteins folding into lower energy states? It's not like a bacteria or virus; it's more like ice-nine, except instead of water it's your brain.

To save someone else the time, the "ice-nine" referred to in this comment is fictional .

To be fair, "Cat's Cradle" is a famous work of science-fiction

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Bathurst and Moncton are far enough apart that I’d rule that out.

I would generally agree, except in wonder what the aquifers/groundwater looks like in that region and also the sea water along that coast (likely more of a biological source than an industrial one in that case, I think).

My bet is on either bacterial or agricultural source contaminating well water.
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