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New account, publication is made by someone @vaccines.net which claims the following "We are concerned that the current outbreak of COVID-19 is actually a bioweapon attack and may be linked to the US anthrax attack of 2001, which originated from the US army base Fort Detrick." The publication has not been peer reviewed, and quotes several times articles published by the original author with similar claims. Are we spr…

How is it misinfo? I am just saying it is a potential risk as you litterly fold proteins.

What's wrong with questioning something completely experimental?

Sure, it needs to be looked into more not a definite it is causing prions but could be a risk in the future.

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Prions terrify me as well because it seems like there's no stopping them.. > In 2015, researchers at The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston found that plants can be a vector for prions. When researchers fed hamsters grass that grew on ground where a deer that died with chronic wasting disease (CWD) was buried, the hamsters became ill with CWD, suggesting that prions can bind to plants, which then ta…

I had read this before. It's horrifying. How do you stop the chain reaction of proteins folding into lower energy states? It's not like a bacteria or virus; it's more like ice-nine, except instead of water it's your brain.

This really puts it into perspective...

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Did prions survive cooking? I'd have thought cooking the beef would have killed them.

Yes they do, unfortunately. And there are recently discovered cases of chronic wasting disease (CWD) in elk, deer and moose worldwide. I hope it doesn't pass to humans. For the time being I'll refrain from eating game.

I would be more worried about beef. There has been no evidence of CWD jumping to humans, but there has been for BSE.

Also, do you have a link for the distribution? My understanding is that it is spread over a large geographic area, but that it's found in smaller clumps.

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As mentioned in previous submissions, because it is happening in a certain area, industrial pollution can be considered as a possible cause as well.

Bathurst and Moncton are far enough apart that I’d rule that out.

I would generally agree, except in wonder what the aquifers/groundwater looks like in that region and also the sea water along that coast (likely more of a biological source than an industrial one in that case, I think).

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There was some research which suggested that a not insignificant number of dementia cases were actually misdiagnosed mad cow disease. Because CJD can stick around for a while without taking affect, I wouldn't be surprised.

The age range starts at 18 for this outbreak.

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You really want to give anti-vaxxers more ammo over a "potential risk"? But welcome to HN.

Yeah, well unfortunately there are anti-vaxxers but people who have genuine concerns over the long term safety of a completely experimental vaccine will be labeled as antivaxx to.

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Prions are incredible hard to destroy. To quote from Wikipedia: `Prion aggregates are stable, and this structural stability means that prions are resistant to denaturation by chemical and physical agents: they cannot be destroyed by ordinary disinfection or cooking.`

Iirc hospitals that treat patients with prion diseases incinerate all materials that contact the patients. I don't know how they sanitize the rooms but it can't be cheap or eco friendly.

Destroying prions is eco friendly.

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Prions terrify me as well because it seems like there's no stopping them.. > In 2015, researchers at The University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston found that plants can be a vector for prions. When researchers fed hamsters grass that grew on ground where a deer that died with chronic wasting disease (CWD) was buried, the hamsters became ill with CWD, suggesting that prions can bind to plants, which then ta…

I had read this before. It's horrifying. How do you stop the chain reaction of proteins folding into lower energy states? It's not like a bacteria or virus; it's more like ice-nine, except instead of water it's your brain.

To save someone else the time, the "ice-nine" referred to in this comment is fictional.

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From the article: "Despite patients showing no trace of any known prion diseases, it hasn't been completely ruled out as a cause, he says. Another theory is chronic exposure to what's called an "excitotoxin" like domoic acid, which was linked to a 1987 food poisoning incident from mussels contaminated with the toxin from the nearby province of Prince Edward Island. ... Dr Cashman says they are also looking at another…

You get plenty of excitotoxins from eating MSG which may be causing diseases too. The amount of msg in commercial food has doubled the last decade apparently. So much we don’t know about the body and what we put in it.

Do you mean to say MSG itself is an excitotoxin? It doesn't make sense to say there are excitotoxins in it. It's just a single compound.
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