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I spent a while on this path - removing apps, hiding others, setting personal time limits or other restrictions on my phone usage. At each step on the way, all I learned is that I need to go further. Short of getting rid of your smartphone (which I have now done), the most effective thing I found was to make sure you put your phone in some fixed place in the house where you won't typically look at it (a shelf in the…

I have an acquaintance that has a time-locked box he puts his phone in. I thought it was a novel solution to the problem.

A similar alternative would be to place it somewhere where a notable effort would be required to fetch it, like traveling half an hour to a weekend house.

All these things could give just the right amount of challenge and time so that the urge to scroll could transition into rational thinking.

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I don't have problems with phones but I have problems with computers - I was usually ended up with HN and YouTube when I tried to learning/writing/programming for side projects. Then I recall I read from somewhere that Donald Knuth prefers pen and paper to computer. I tried it and it did work for me. I just turn off the computer and use pen and paper/book/printed stuff most of the time. When I have to use the compute…

I like your idea of offline paper-based programming for side projects and one-man-projects. However it becomes very difficult to do any of that in a group of people in the middle of a pendamic. But will give it a try. Thanks!

TBH I'm not sure if it is a good idea for teams.

For me, the idea of being offline is just a way to:

1. Get away with distractions

2. make side projects enjoyable and avoid burnout because it doesn't feel like another job

3. make steady progress because of 2

Because the major problem for side projects or solo developers is not productivity, it's they either get distracted or burn out then abandon projects.

People who work in teams mostly have fewer of these issues because they are usually being accounted. Plus modern technologies did drastically improved how organizations exchange information, as opposed to pure productivity gain (just try to compare modern organizations with Office-like software and Internet connections, to paper-based government systems a century ago). So you probably need technologies to efficiently exchange information in teams, but not so much as an individual.

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If your mobile only bank account is the only thing stopping you from ditching your iPhone, I would suggest switching your bank account.

Yes, a retail bank might have higher fees. But if spending 10 bucks a month can get you rid of your addiction that's a great deal. They will definitely help you with the transition to gain a new customer.

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Hey there, Thank you so much for sharing this, it's super important to realize how smartphones are impacting us every day and how almost all social media platforms and distracting apps are designed to steal as much of your attention as possible and keep you as hooked as possible.

I'm working on an iOS app called Opal (https://opal.pm/hn) which can help you lock/brick distracting apps on a set timer or all day long in the background while still keeping essential apps like mobile banking active. Think of it as a smarter airplane mode that's designed to help you be more intentional with how you choose to use your phone.

We believe that better and more humane tech is ironically an actual solution to the problem tech has created for all of us. With Opal, it's all about building a healthier relationship with your phone and using everything in limits. It's not about drastically reducing your screen time but you can totally achieve that too if that's what you want to do. We want to make people feel good about the time that they do spend on their screens and not feel guilty that they've spent X hours on their phone this week etc.

I truly believe this can help you get "un-hooked" from apps that are distracting to you and help stop the doomscrolling.

Let me know if you do give it a try as we want to make it work for you and for anyone else in a similar position :)

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Remove the Sim. I dont have a sim in my phone for ~2 years now. (I have one in my router in just in case in need phone number, or use SMS verification services).

As you i need a phone (Google authentificator, Banking apps, Home automation setups). However since its rarely ringing anyway i regularly forget it somewhere around the house. It essentially is now a device i just keep looking for when i need it.

For me personally there is no going back. My smartphone definitly never helped either my mental health nor my feeling of staying in control.

When i go out today, i am offline. And i love it.

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Any technical advice about how to block yourself is beating around the bush IMO. Not only is it easy to bypass most of that stuff, but you'll be way better off learning how to deal with this psychological issue directly instead of trying to avoid triggering it. Edit: They are not mutually exclusive by any means, I just mean that you will benefit in the long-run by addressing the psychological problem that leads to th…

I see no reason not to combine willpower with psychology tricks. I think of it as playing a game between my rational brain vs limbic system. Yes, my rational brain might be ahead for a while, but limbic system is always there to find me in moment of weakness. So I remove opportunities for it to take control. Turning off PC before work, laptop in the closet, phone across the room, ringer on. Simple and effective. I ha…

One could argue that your "rational brain" is in fact an extension of your limbic system for longer timeframes than immediate - I think I heard that line of reasoning in Sapolsky's lectures.
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