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Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

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It seems like the phone is at least in part a symptom, not a cause. So I'd suggest, for starters, seeking medical help for your underlying conditions.

That said, since the phone issue may also be causing a feedback loop of anxiety, I'd suggest a few things.

1. Schedule "phone time". Set an alarm for when it's over, and commit to not using it outside of that time.

2. Set "Do Not Disturb" on your phone. At least with Android you can do this just by talking to the phone. Or at the very least set quiet hours for the majority of the day.

Alternatively, (2) may cause more anxiety if you're constantly wondering "but what if" - in which case, perhaps set it to whatever is necessary to hear it, but tell your friends/ family that you're trying to stick to specific hours for phone calls/ texts.

3. Some sort of cognitive behavioral approach. Think about what triggers you looking at your phone, or your anxiety - write this all down. For every trigger, consider what actions you could use to directly address that trigger, in a healthier way. This could be as simple as counting to ten or focusing on your breathing when you feel that anxiety, giving your mind some time to rest.

Consider writing down when you feel that anxiety. Instead of turning to your phone, perhaps just with pen/paper, write down what you were doing, how you're feeling, and how you'll move past those feelings.

4. Log out of accounts. Even just having to log back in can force a pause, and give you a chance to back off. Remove distraction apps entirely. Don't just rely on blocking them or whatever - uninstall them. When you're feeling better, and have healthier habits, you can reintroduce them.

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

#232
I keep work and personal devices separate as much as possible and turn off notifications.

My phone is the one device that “crosses the streams” (I don’t want to carry two phones). As it’s my work phone it only has work apps plus some essentials for when I am out and about (Map, Music, Fitness etc apps).

“Scroller” apps are strictly on my personal tablet which has weekly time reporting turned on.

If I’m using my personal tablet in a way that is causing problems then I either put the tablet out of the way or set a time limit. If it’s really causing problems I’ll ask my partner to enable parental controls or hide it.

You also need professional help if possible. Unfortunately getting help may take some time as support services are overloaded. As an immediate step the Coursera Yale Science of Well Being course is good. Do the workbook and other assignments, especially if they are tough to do at first.

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

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I spent a while on this path - removing apps, hiding others, setting personal time limits or other restrictions on my phone usage. At each step on the way, all I learned is that I need to go further. Short of getting rid of your smartphone (which I have now done), the most effective thing I found was to make sure you put your phone in some fixed place in the house where you won't typically look at it (a shelf in the kitchen, in my case), ideally with it turned off. Even then, I would find after a few days that my phone was back in my hand and I had been wasting a lot of time on it.

There are no easy answers, sorry. You'll always find a way around any lockdown you do.

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

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post #232

I keep work and personal devices separate as much as possible and turn off notifications. My phone is the one device that “crosses the streams” (I don’t want to carry two phones). As it’s my work phone it only has work apps plus some essentials for when I am out and about (Map, Music, Fitness etc apps). “Scroller” apps are strictly on my personal tablet which has weekly time reporting turned on. If I’m using my perso…

Reading replies I see you are doing CBT and exposure therapy, excellent.

Hopefully you have already discussed this with your professional support team. If you haven’t yet you should, it can be embarrassing but their job is to help you not judge you and at least in my experience sharing a problem helps reduce the burden. Explain to them how it has gotten worse and ask them to help you come up with a plan to work on it with regular check ins.

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

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I've suffered from similar problems (anxiety/ADHD/compulsive behavior). Definitely had endless scrolling mess with my sleep and exacerbate mental health issues. I've tried Apple's Screen Time feature, but found it far to easy to bybass. Until they fix that, here's the system that's worked consistently, if imperfectly, for me: 1. Download Apple Configurator and put the phone in supervised mode. This will require you t…

Thank you! This looks really helpful! I will definitely look into this immediately

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

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post #233

I spent a while on this path - removing apps, hiding others, setting personal time limits or other restrictions on my phone usage. At each step on the way, all I learned is that I need to go further. Short of getting rid of your smartphone (which I have now done), the most effective thing I found was to make sure you put your phone in some fixed place in the house where you won't typically look at it (a shelf in the…

I have an acquaintance that has a time-locked box he puts his phone in. I thought it was a novel solution to the problem.

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

#239

I don't have problems with phones but I have problems with computers - I was usually ended up with HN and YouTube when I tried to learning/writing/programming for side projects. Then I recall I read from somewhere that Donald Knuth prefers pen and paper to computer. I tried it and it did work for me. I just turn off the computer and use pen and paper/book/printed stuff most of the time. When I have to use the compute…

This is the exact same problem I have with writing. Whenever I sit down to write - I find that work, notifications, heck the entire machine gets in the way. I've now reverted to pen and paper at least for now. It seems like a great way to get into a flow state - even if antithetical to active changes. At the same time I get to use my fountain pens, so that makes me happy.

Re: Ask HN: Mobile phone addiction help?

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post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The distracting sites mentioned in the OP exist on desktop as well.

On desktop is much easier to do what OP is asking, a la network tricks mentioned in a sibling comment, editing your computer's hosts file, or other measures.

Browser extensions work well here too.
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