I enjoy the Pinephone, but it certainly has its issues. I’d kill for better performance; it’s very close to usability. I also have some issues with the hardware (it seems my battery has stopped working entirely, recently.) On the other hand, there is one confounding software issue that I think makes it the hardest as a full replacement for a modern smartphone: push notifications. An equivalent for APNS or FCM that al…
Will Linux phones stay around this time?
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Re: Will Linux phones stay around this time?
#22I enjoy the Pinephone, but it certainly has its issues. I’d kill for better performance; it’s very close to usability. I also have some issues with the hardware (it seems my battery has stopped working entirely, recently.) On the other hand, there is one confounding software issue that I think makes it the hardest as a full replacement for a modern smartphone: push notifications. An equivalent for APNS or FCM that al…
Conversations.im does jabber on Android without push notifications. It just leaves an idle TCP socket. I haven't noticed latency issues with that, but I'm not a heavy user
Re: Will Linux phones stay around this time?
#23Anyone know of any good Linux phones. Mine is going to be dead soon and for a while I liked Pixel because it didn't have all the Samsung or Motorola or anytime else bloatware, but with what Google has been doing I'd prefer a full Linux phone. I've looked a Librem but $1500 is kind of hard to justify when I have all my other expenses that come with a young family. Anyone have any suggestions?
The Pinephone is a nice phone, but still in beta and underpowered to say the least.
Re: Will Linux phones stay around this time?
#24The real force against them is, of course, the most well funded businesses (perhaps monopolies) who have a vested interest (or at least, strongly believe so) in not allowing the level of freedom on your machines that a Linux Phone would provide.
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#25Am I missing something? Every Android phone is running Linux.
Re: Will Linux phones stay around this time?
#26Anyone know of any good Linux phones. Mine is going to be dead soon and for a while I liked Pixel because it didn't have all the Samsung or Motorola or anytime else bloatware, but with what Google has been doing I'd prefer a full Linux phone. I've looked a Librem but $1500 is kind of hard to justify when I have all my other expenses that come with a young family. Anyone have any suggestions?
Re: Will Linux phones stay around this time?
#27I enjoy the Pinephone, but it certainly has its issues. I’d kill for better performance; it’s very close to usability. I also have some issues with the hardware (it seems my battery has stopped working entirely, recently.) On the other hand, there is one confounding software issue that I think makes it the hardest as a full replacement for a modern smartphone: push notifications. An equivalent for APNS or FCM that al…
I dream of being able to configure my phone (be it android, linux, or ios) to proxy all communication with push services through a host I control.
At the nitty-gritty implementation level, I kind of hope the LinuxPhone world adopts Matrix as a standardish notification transport.
Re: Will Linux phones stay around this time?
#28Anyone know of any good Linux phones. Mine is going to be dead soon and for a while I liked Pixel because it didn't have all the Samsung or Motorola or anytime else bloatware, but with what Google has been doing I'd prefer a full Linux phone. I've looked a Librem but $1500 is kind of hard to justify when I have all my other expenses that come with a young family. Anyone have any suggestions?
What do you mean? I've had a couple Motorola phones from the G series (G1 and G4 and currently an AndroidOne) and AFAICT it's been pretty much stock Android apart from:
- an app for support enquiries (with diagnostic functionality for the screen, sensors etc.) which I've actually used before,
- one app you could opt-in to to get something like product newsletters from Motorola (I don't care for spam)
- and since the AndroidOne an app for audio EQ (which I don't really need/use).
All of these don't even use 80 MB of the internal storage (64 GB) so I don't really know where you get the "bloatware" from.
Re: Will Linux phones stay around this time?
#29I enjoy the Pinephone, but it certainly has its issues. I’d kill for better performance; it’s very close to usability. I also have some issues with the hardware (it seems my battery has stopped working entirely, recently.) On the other hand, there is one confounding software issue that I think makes it the hardest as a full replacement for a modern smartphone: push notifications. An equivalent for APNS or FCM that al…
That's the whole problem with most projects and why they neither produce acceptable usability nor a an acceptable price point. It's not that it's not technically possible, it's just infeasible without becoming yet another android vendor.
Even just having an 'alternative OS' on existing hardware is a non-existent market, and those projects try very very hard. Adding the hardware problem in to the mix makes it harder, not easier.