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> After the baseline measurements, individuals with type 2 diabetes started the diet, which consisted of a liquid diet formula (46.4% carbohydrate, 32.5% protein and 20.1% fat; vitamins, minerals and trace elements; 2.1 MJ/day [510 kcal/day]; Optifast; Nestlé Nutrition, Croydon, UK). This was supplemented with three portions of non-starchy vegetables such that total energy intake was about 2.5 MJ (600 kcal)/day. Participants were provided with sugges- tions of vegetable recipes to enhance compliance by varying daily eating. They were also encouraged to drink at least 2 l of water or other energy-free beverages each day, and asked to maintain their habitual level of physical activity. Ongoing support and encouragement was provided by means of regular telephone contact. At the end of the 8 week intervention participants returned to normal eating but were provided with information about portion size and healthy eating.
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This is a tin-foil-hat conspiracy theory reaction. Define "use it more often". Doctors recommend diet and exercise all the time. It's the first thing to recommend to patients. It's simply very hard for people to accomplish it, and the vast majority of people either can't or won't lose weight.
This is lame-brain hand-waving dismissal in order to continue being lazy and essentially helpless in our personal health. Doctors make standardized dietary recommendations that are not enough to protect and heal against lifestyle diseases. Compare the 30% fat American Heart Association diet to the Dr. Dean Ornish, Dr. McDougall, or Dr. Esselstyn diets that recommend 10% fat and whole foods, not products marketed as '…
So you agree with me. People won't follow even a "moderate" diet. So why do you think they will follow a more stringent diet?
But (as the OP does) blaming it on a lack of financial motives does put it squarely in the conspiracy theory realm for me, as it ignores any individual responsibility and blames it on the "bad system" instead.
Watch Food Matters on Netflix. A good diet can help cure many diseases.
Not to discredit (haven't had a chance to watch yet), but is there scientific evidence behind this?
Of course you don't see nearly as many "studies" on diet therapy as you do a typical medicine or pill, most scientists and doctors that practice alternative therapy are considered heretics (cooks, crazy people, etc) and banished from the "mainstream" portion of the medical world (the one with all the cash flow).
Look up Dr. Max Gerson and all of the amazing things he's done with the use of a simple diet therapy consisting mainly of juices and fruits and vegetables. I would highly recommend his biography - http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Max-Gerson-Healing-Hopeless/dp/0976...
It's a fascinating read and really challenges you to think against the mainstream medical world.
Watch Food Matters on Netflix. A good diet can help cure many diseases.
Not to discredit (haven't had a chance to watch yet), but is there scientific evidence behind this?
Haven't seen this movie, but your question is more online group think pessimism and reluctance to take responsibility for our actions and lifestyles.
What about the movie, apparently covering diet and nutrition, makes you think it has anything to do with a belief system based on stronger dilutions of chemicals having a greater effect than a weaker dilution?
Seriously, some of the questions asked by geeks online leave the ordinary reader wondering if there's a herd of you in a room high-fiving each other after your asinine remarks. Carry on with your groupthink if you must, but it's getting old.
Diet can be used as a form of cure for nearly every disease that exist. So why not use it more often? Oh right, there is no money to be made...
I hate to rain on your parade, I do... But, you simply couldn't be further from the truth. Diet can only be considered a "cure" in an extremely small subset of all disease; and, furthermore, the word "cure" is practically never used to describe the effects of diet in any treatment scenario. It's true that there is no money to be made by Pharma, and that's why they aren't funding this study. My words may be harsh, but…
God forbid someone suggest an alternative as simple as gasp diet.
Diet can be used as a form of cure for nearly every disease that exist. So why not use it more often? Oh right, there is no money to be made...
This is a tin-foil-hat conspiracy theory reaction. Define "use it more often". Doctors recommend diet and exercise all the time. It's the first thing to recommend to patients. It's simply very hard for people to accomplish it, and the vast majority of people either can't or won't lose weight.
I'm 42, I've been involved with two major medical systems for 30+ years, both in Canada and the United States (Kaiser) - for one reason or another, I've been to a doctor maybe a dozen times. For about 15-20 years I was either on the cusp of obesity, was always overweight - and certainly was never in the slightest bit of good physical shape.
In that 30+ years, I solemnly swear no medical official has ever made any recommendations about diet and/or exercise, with one exception of a emergency room intake doctor giving me some guidance on drinking more water after I was checked in for dehydration and the second time, when I contacted Kaiser Intake (half dead from a case of pneumonia ) - and they recommended I drink tea with a bit of honey. Sum total of diet advice.
In general, the medical system is much more interested in "Fix it when it's broken" then they are "Prevent it from breaking in the first place."
And they really tend to reach towards surgery/and drugs any time there is a problem. Some are offended when you suggest that perhaps an affliction might be diet recommended.
It's not a tin-foil-hat theory reaction. The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition has any number of peer reviewed observational studies on what happens to indigenous populations when they encountered western (refined) diets.
Taubes has an endless number of references in "Good Calories, Bad Calories" for those who are even moderately interested in how unbelievably important diet turns out to be when it comes to modern health.
But, where's the money in getting people to lead a healthy lifestyle?
People will need to figure this stuff out for themselves, it certainly won't be marketed to them the way HFCS laden beverages will be.
Diet can be used as a form of cure for nearly every disease that exist. So why not use it more often? Oh right, there is no money to be made...