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Pirates who illegally streamed Jake Paul v Ben Askren targeted in lawsuit

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Re: Pirates who illegally streamed Jake Paul v Ben Askren targeted in lawsuit

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Can they actually go after any of these entities? Seems like at this point it's pretty trivial to set up a website which proxies manifest files and injects DRM keys directly... Good luck, but I'd assume these folks are all in non extradition countries, or have covered their tracks pretty well...

The article notes that several seem to have have ties in the US. How accurate that info is, I guess we'll find out.

The lawsuit will allow them to search further.

Re: Pirates who illegally streamed Jake Paul v Ben Askren targeted in lawsuit

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For a whole 30 seconds of fight action?

Don't people have a right to their property?

I feel like this is a rhetorical question, but I’m not very confident that they should when it comes to data. It’s definitely less clear cut than physical ownership in my opinion. Abstractly it seems wrong to limit people from certain bit arrangements without paying. The source is limitless.

Re: Pirates who illegally streamed Jake Paul v Ben Askren targeted in lawsuit

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Question to anyone that understands the legal 'play' here: is it the thing to say that it cost them 2,000,000 paying (I assume) streams, which feels ridiculously high? And then it gets bargained down or something? Because it seems a lot like the "you pirated my album/film instead of buying it" - whereas the reality of it is probably more like a high percentage just wouldn't have bothered - a passing interest/opportun…

Yeah they have to prove the amount of money they think they lost, which is subject to expert argument and some legal constraints. They can ask for whatever, but in theory they only get what they can prove.

Re: Pirates who illegally streamed Jake Paul v Ben Askren targeted in lawsuit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't people have a right to their property?

I feel like this is a rhetorical question, but I’m not very confident that they should when it comes to data. It’s definitely less clear cut than physical ownership in my opinion. Abstractly it seems wrong to limit people from certain bit arrangements without paying. The source is limitless.

But it really isn't limitless, is it? We can abstract it into a 'bit arrangement', but that arrangement didn't emerge from entropy independently - someone invested time, effort, and other scarce resources to arrange those bits in a valuable, non-random configuration.

The person copying clearly values that arrangement, or they wouldn't be copying it.

Re: Pirates who illegally streamed Jake Paul v Ben Askren targeted in lawsuit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't people have a right to their property?

I feel like this is a rhetorical question, but I’m not very confident that they should when it comes to data. It’s definitely less clear cut than physical ownership in my opinion. Abstractly it seems wrong to limit people from certain bit arrangements without paying. The source is limitless.

> Abstractly it seems wrong to limit people from certain bit arrangements without paying. The source is limitless.

I invite you to apply this logic to your personal data.

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