Vegan cheese has quietly but steadily infiltrated mainstream supermarket shelves

Post by blakebreeder » Fri, Apr 30, 2021, 3:00 AM UTC

subculture wrote: post #136

There's certainly a trope of "...but I can't give up cheese" and as someone who went from vegetarian to vegan: Yeah, cheese is hard to replicate. But also: your body and tastes adapt. After a few weeks off of dairy our memories of those old textures and mouth feel start to fade and are replaced. Humans don't like changes in patterns, but at the same time are relatively quick to adapt to new ones. There's real addicti…

Post by borepop » Fri, Apr 30, 2021, 3:14 AM UTC

outime wrote: post #290

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #87

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Same. For me, dairy increase respiratory mucus production which makes me feel a little congested and increases the frequency amd severity of upper respiratory tract infections. It also hurts my digestive system. Both are subtle initially and ramp up with continued dairy consumption, so I can tolerate small infrequent amounts. I suspect many more people have similar issues but don't realise.

Yeah I have exactly this. I tolerate small amounts but I avoid it on a daily basis. And I do love cheese but ain’t worth it. Lactose-free (aka adding lactase) helps sligthly but it seems it’s not the only thing causing trouble to me. All in all, we’re lucky we have alternatives.

Post by RacfeelBudkind » Fri, Apr 30, 2021, 3:27 AM UTC

athms wrote: post #345

RacfeelBudkind wrote: post #217

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> I totally get ethical vegetarianism, and appreciate that much animal abuse can occur within the dairy industry, but I don't think that's inherent . It's inherent. Cows, like all mammals, need to have given birth to produce milk. This means dairy cows are impregnated and give birth roughly yearly. It's entirely uneconomical to raise all of the calves, since it would effectively triple or more the cost of producing m…

>...all mammals, need to have given birth to produce milk. Wrong. Humans don't need to be pregnant or give birth to produce milk. Lactation can happen with medication or stimulation, which becomes easier as women age. If a woman is not inducing lactation with hormones, she must stimulate the breasts several times a day using hand compression or a breast pump. This is how adoptive and foster mothers breastfeed their b…

Post by wumpus » Fri, Apr 30, 2021, 3:48 AM UTC

bigmattystyles wrote: post #389

I hate how they can obfuscate the fact that they're not dairy. Via their labels and shelf placement. I've bought them on accident. It's always obvious to me on first taste, but from the superficial supermarket look, it is not. I'd think they get the 'wings' treatment. https://www.thompsoncoburn.com/insights/blogs/food-fight/pos...

Post by wumpus » Fri, Apr 30, 2021, 4:21 AM UTC

tpoacher wrote: post #302

danShumway wrote: post #230

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> and I gave you actual "almond milk" What makes that the actual version? Almond milk as an animal milk substitute made from almonds dates back to the 1300s[0]. It's not new. I hear where you're coming from, but I also question what does and doesn't count as an "authentic" name, and I suspect a lot of it comes down to people thinking that the names they used growing up or the names they ran into first are the "real"…

Almond sherbet is the sherbet itself, not the milk drink, but I take the point. And I guess almond milk wasn't the best example to focus on, but I was referring more generally to the trend of intentional misnaming that I have observed. So, e.g., given your 'quacks like a duck' theory, I could happily cook a "mushroom risotto" with mushroomy chicken instead of actual mushroom, and that would still be a perfectly fine…