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Re: Cuomo Aides Spent Months Hiding Nursing Home Death Toll

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Post by AnimalMuppet » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 11:02 PM UTC

hpcjoe wrote: post #97

comodore_ wrote: post #32

the first reports on this already appeared in august 2020, but somehow all mainstream outlets weren't too interested. They still weren't interested in October when the DOJ sent an inquiry about nursing homes or in January when the NY AG issued a report finding New York under counted deaths of nursing home and long-term care facility residents. Meanwhile, CNN put him on the air, to be heralded as a great and inspiring…

> The media landscape is beyond broken in this country. It has been for a while. Most of the major "news" media organizations are anything but news. That people actually believe what they hear, and then act upon this ... often ... misinformation ... is horrifying. That they have ardent supporters who insist that X really is news while Y is not ... well ... no. If you want news in the US about the US, listen to BBC Am…

I kind of like Reuters, too.

Re: Cuomo Aides Spent Months Hiding Nursing Home Death Toll

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Post by renewiltord » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 11:04 PM UTC

Fucking knew this guy was a fraud. The fact that any time anything was going poorly he'd pop up on TV and talk to his brother (who'd then tell him to talk to their Mom) was the giveaway.

It was some straight up panem et circenses shite. People ate up that wholesome talk-to-mum shite. Fucking knew it.

Then he'd periodically make some snarky anti-Trump remark to rally the troops. Very suspicious. Not like I'm upset by the remark, but if you're trying to pander to me, I start to question.

Re: Cuomo Aides Spent Months Hiding Nursing Home Death Toll

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Post by heavyset_go » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 11:07 PM UTC

foo_barrio wrote: post #51

heavyset_go wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Notably, at the very beginning of the pandemic before lockdowns, COVID ravaged nursing and long-term care homes in the PNW and then in the northeast.

At the very beginning it was winter in the Northeast and treatment protocols were being development. Is it fair to even compare the virus that came into NY during Jan to a state where it came after 6 months of study, data and summer weather?

> At the very beginning it was winter in the Northeast and treatment protocols were being development.

These two factors are key, in my opinion. Infection rates and deaths fell dramatically in the NE after a better understanding of how to treat COVID was gained, after mitigations for spread were implemented, and after the spring. Those rates also stayed relatively low for the remainder of the pandemic compared to other states, as well.

Re: Cuomo Aides Spent Months Hiding Nursing Home Death Toll

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Post by gnicholas » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 11:09 PM UTC

comodore_ wrote: post #32

the first reports on this already appeared in august 2020, but somehow all mainstream outlets weren't too interested. They still weren't interested in October when the DOJ sent an inquiry about nursing homes or in January when the NY AG issued a report finding New York under counted deaths of nursing home and long-term care facility residents. Meanwhile, CNN put him on the air, to be heralded as a great and inspiring…

> the first reports on this already appeared in august 2020

Actually, it was covered in May of 2020 in the Daily Wire.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/ny-health-dept-admits-to-unde...

Re: Cuomo Aides Spent Months Hiding Nursing Home Death Toll

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Post by oldgradstudent » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 11:13 PM UTC

nyczomg wrote: post #37

comodore_ wrote: post #32

the first reports on this already appeared in august 2020, but somehow all mainstream outlets weren't too interested. They still weren't interested in October when the DOJ sent an inquiry about nursing homes or in January when the NY AG issued a report finding New York under counted deaths of nursing home and long-term care facility residents. Meanwhile, CNN put him on the air, to be heralded as a great and inspiring…

They gave him a fucking Emmy in November: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/1... And he published a fucking book in October: https://www.amazon.com/American-Crisis-Leadership-COVID-19-P... Broken doesn't even begin to describe it....

What's wrong with that?

Emmys are usually given for works of fiction.

Re: Cuomo Aides Spent Months Hiding Nursing Home Death Toll

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Post by jmcqk6 » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 11:15 PM UTC

hpcjoe wrote: post #100

nyczomg wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They gave him a fucking Emmy in November: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/1... And he published a fucking book in October: https://www.amazon.com/American-Crisis-Leadership-COVID-19-P... Broken doesn't even begin to describe it....

I don't see anyone talking about taking that emmy back. Or canceling him. He has like 7 credible assault victims accusing him. And the "media" protects him. Riddle me that. His ass should have been out on the sidewalk a long time ago. The "media" is complicit.

>I don't see anyone talking about taking that emmy back. Or canceling him.

Look harder then. They're not difficult to find.

When you treat "media" as a monolithic, moving with unified purpose, you're going to make mistakes just like this one.

"media" is diverse enough that you kind people you can disagree with when you look. So it's no doubt true that there is media out there that is defending Cuomo. But that doesn't mean there is some vast conspiracy, or even wide spread collusion, as you seem to be implying.

Re: Cuomo Aides Spent Months Hiding Nursing Home Death Toll

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Post by cma » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 11:15 PM UTC

kasey_junk wrote: post #68

comodore_ wrote: post #32

the first reports on this already appeared in august 2020, but somehow all mainstream outlets weren't too interested. They still weren't interested in October when the DOJ sent an inquiry about nursing homes or in January when the NY AG issued a report finding New York under counted deaths of nursing home and long-term care facility residents. Meanwhile, CNN put him on the air, to be heralded as a great and inspiring…

NPR covered the AG finding quite a bit https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/0... As did The NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/28/nyregion/nursing-home-dea...

And CNN:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/28/us/new-york-nursing-homes-cov...

Re: Cuomo Aides Spent Months Hiding Nursing Home Death Toll

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Post by comodore_ » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 11:15 PM UTC

gnicholas wrote: post #114

comodore_ wrote: post #32

the first reports on this already appeared in august 2020, but somehow all mainstream outlets weren't too interested. They still weren't interested in October when the DOJ sent an inquiry about nursing homes or in January when the NY AG issued a report finding New York under counted deaths of nursing home and long-term care facility residents. Meanwhile, CNN put him on the air, to be heralded as a great and inspiring…

> the first reports on this already appeared in august 2020 Actually, it was covered in May of 2020 in the Daily Wire. https://www.dailywire.com/news/ny-health-dept-admits-to-unde...

insane, I wonder how many have heard of this for the first time today or are still unaware because the mainstream media never picked it up or is memory-holing this

Re: Cuomo Aides Spent Months Hiding Nursing Home Death Toll

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 11:18 PM UTC

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #87

commandlinefan wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what OP is getting at is that it's suspicious that this became a "mainstream" news story this year when it was known last year.

Nobody cared what the body count was until the body count turned into a house seat. The really sick thing as that this sudden influx of give-a-shits is sending the message that "the party will back you if you kill people so long as you don't lose a house seat in the process" which is not a great message to be sending.

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Re: Cuomo Aides Spent Months Hiding Nursing Home Death Toll

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Post by danans » Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 11:25 PM UTC

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #87

commandlinefan wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what OP is getting at is that it's suspicious that this became a "mainstream" news story this year when it was known last year.

Nobody cared what the body count was until the body count turned into a house seat. The really sick thing as that this sudden influx of give-a-shits is sending the message that "the party will back you if you kill people so long as you don't lose a house seat in the process" which is not a great message to be sending.

> Nobody cared what the body count was until the body count turned into a house seat.

How did the body count turn into a house seat exactly? There are dozens of ways that New York's population count could have gone 89 in either direction and changed the house seat allocation. At those small margins, it's basically a coin toss.