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Eddy Cue wanted to bring iMessage to Android in 2013

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Re: Eddy Cue wanted to bring iMessage to Android in 2013

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I feel like I'm the only iPhone user that barely makes use of iMessage. All my chat communications is done via Google Hangouts (or whatever they call it these days), WhatsApp, or Kakao (I'm Korean). I think I have exactly one friend who I use iMessage with. Then again, half my friends are Android users, so...

Likewise. Almost all my circles (90%) are iPhone based in Australia and Singapore. All WhatsApp, Signal.

Re: Eddy Cue wanted to bring iMessage to Android in 2013

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> The line of questioning is likely to play a significant role in Epic’s antitrust lawsuit, which argues that iOS app store exclusivity represents an illegal use of market power. Epic has made clear in previous filings that it plans to make iMessage exclusivity part of that argument, citing a 2016 email from Phil Schiller that argues iMessage expansion “will hurt us more than help us.”

This seems weirdly irrelevant. If Epic is arguing that not allowing other app stores onto iPhones is hurting consumers, I don't understand the relevance of Apple software on non-Apple phones. I mean, say Epic wins their case, and so Apple needs to support side-loading. The court still can't force Apple to port iMessage to other devices.

Re: Eddy Cue wanted to bring iMessage to Android in 2013

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Agreed. They could probably monetize that better than hardware sales too, most likely via Apple Wallet payments and data. And the whole blue/green bubble pretentiousness would have never happened, which is funny because so many Android users still have no idea that's even happening to them or just assume they don't need to care about anybody that cares about that. (protip: its affecting your life and relationships)

> (protip: its affecting your life and relationships) Haha, what? Anyway, joke's on them, I use Signal.

Group MMS is terrible (group chats in general) and you can't really expect a group of people to all download and install a new app because one person has it. In all likelihood, you will simply be excluded or if it's important, you will be forced to use something like facebook messenger, google hangouts, instagram, etc which is worse than SMS.

Re: Eddy Cue wanted to bring iMessage to Android in 2013

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I feel like I'm the only iPhone user that barely makes use of iMessage. All my chat communications is done via Google Hangouts (or whatever they call it these days), WhatsApp, or Kakao (I'm Korean). I think I have exactly one friend who I use iMessage with. Then again, half my friends are Android users, so...

In the US market it's much more dominant.

Re: Eddy Cue wanted to bring iMessage to Android in 2013

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post #21

I feel like I'm the only iPhone user that barely makes use of iMessage. All my chat communications is done via Google Hangouts (or whatever they call it these days), WhatsApp, or Kakao (I'm Korean). I think I have exactly one friend who I use iMessage with. Then again, half my friends are Android users, so...

Likewise. Almost all my circles (90%) are iPhone based in Australia and Singapore. All WhatsApp, Signal.

imessage should still work?

Re: Eddy Cue wanted to bring iMessage to Android in 2013

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They would have captured 100% of the messaging market. Reminds me of '90s *Nix companies with sales bros wanting to sling around overpriced hardware, preventing expansion of the company in other fronts.

> They would have captured 100% of the messaging market

I'm not sure that would have helped Apple in anti-trust battles.

Re: Eddy Cue wanted to bring iMessage to Android in 2013

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post #21

I feel like I'm the only iPhone user that barely makes use of iMessage. All my chat communications is done via Google Hangouts (or whatever they call it these days), WhatsApp, or Kakao (I'm Korean). I think I have exactly one friend who I use iMessage with. Then again, half my friends are Android users, so...

Likewise. Almost all my circles (90%) are iPhone based in Australia and Singapore. All WhatsApp, Signal.

Curious. 95% of my circle are Australian, 80% of them use iPhones, and absolutely all of us use iMessage for nearly all text communication.

Signal is used for the iPhone to Android communication sometimes, but honestly it’s mostly just SMS.

Re: Eddy Cue wanted to bring iMessage to Android in 2013

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Not only did Apple miss an opportunity to own global messaging, Google could have done the same if they had designed Allo with SMS fallback similar to iMessage.

I have no idea what they were thinking with Allo, but they blew one of the easiest layups I’ve ever seen.

Re: Eddy Cue wanted to bring iMessage to Android in 2013

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I quite literally don't need to care about the blue bubble nonsense. It's a great flag for a person I can happily ignore.

I suppose you are one of the special few in that case. In other social groups people tend to gravitate towards a common messaging infrastructure, only sharing the absolute essentials when reminded of those that are not part of that shared system. This means that while you might be part of the group while physically present, you are not a part of the group outside of that. For billions of people around the world that…

Eh, if you aren't able to stay connected to a group despite not using that group's chosen technology, you're not that critical to the group. I'm not advocating to hold your participation hostage, but someone organizing a group to use exclusionary practices despite knowing specific members can't or won't participate is a classic bullying tactic. Family members employ it often.

Re: Eddy Cue wanted to bring iMessage to Android in 2013

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post #28

Not only did Apple miss an opportunity to own global messaging, Google could have done the same if they had designed Allo with SMS fallback similar to iMessage. I have no idea what they were thinking with Allo, but they blew one of the easiest layups I’ve ever seen.

They were far too late with Allo. The time to get it right was when Whatsapp came around.

I like iMessage because it sends full quality media, but WhatsApp fills all the other gaps.

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