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My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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Post by fishnchips »

api wrote: post #31
JPKab wrote: post #27

Jon Pretty sounds like a complete creep and yes, based on this account, a predator. That being said, there is a court and criminal justice system for a reason. While I empathize with the author, and utterly despise the archetype of high-status men who use their status within programming communities as a tool to target women, I find the nature of these kinds of posts to be counterproductive. Therapeutic to the author?…

I don't like this court-of-public-opinion stuff much either and the abuse potential is real. At the same time: what else are people going to do? There seems to be no other recourse. Most people let bullies get away with it because even stepping in as a third party means standing up to a bully. It can be scary, but even if there's no real risk it's still a fucking pain in the ass. Who wants to get into a mud slinging…

Contact law enforcement.

Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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Post by kingsuper20 »

ezluckyfree wrote: post #24
mirekrusin wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know anything about it, but this starts to look a bit like public lynching.

no, a lynching is a murder by a racist mob this is a community realizing that John Pretty is a predator and deciding that they don't want a predator in a position of power frankly, it's weird as hell for you to be confusing those two things

>no, a lynching is a murder by a racist mob

no, a lynching is an extra-legal murder by a mob.

Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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Post by jjeaff »

mirekrusin wrote: post #14
dheera wrote: post #2

Related: Open letter of support for community members targeted by Jon Pretty https://github.com/scala-open-letter/scala-open-letter.githu...

I don't know anything about it, but this starts to look a bit like public lynching.

No, I don't think open letters are anything like public lynching.

Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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Post by mirekrusin »

fabian2k wrote: post #29
mirekrusin wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"seems" doesn't mean "is", we have law systems to deal with those kind of issues. Judges are for determining where the line between "shitty partner" vs "rapist" lies.

I'm not a court, I'm a random person on the internet commenting here.

Me too.

Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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Post by Pfhreak »

mirekrusin wrote: post #14
dheera wrote: post #2

Related: Open letter of support for community members targeted by Jon Pretty https://github.com/scala-open-letter/scala-open-letter.githu...

I don't know anything about it, but this starts to look a bit like public lynching.

Which part?

The part where people are saying they've become aware of several independent, substantiated accusations against Pretty?

The part where they state that sexual assault is unacceptable?

The part where they demand that Pretty stop this behavior, and that communities put stronger code of conducts in place to specifically call out preying on/sexually assaulting members of that community as unacceptable?

Refusing to associate with Pretty, who they believe is an sexual abuser?

Which part of that is 'a bit like a public lynching'? I want you to be specific, because waving your hand loosely at a document and being like, "Well I dunno, but this seems like an execution designed to drive fear into a community" is not only wildly inappropriate but also rhetorically hollow.

Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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Post by melenaboija »

mirekrusin wrote: post #14
dheera wrote: post #2

Related: Open letter of support for community members targeted by Jon Pretty https://github.com/scala-open-letter/scala-open-letter.githu...

I don't know anything about it, but this starts to look a bit like public lynching.

It starts looking to me like a bit of explaining what happened repeatedly

Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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Post by faitswulff »

eloff wrote: post #36

> I don’t remember how much I drank. I don’t remember him drinking. But I remember feeling uncomfortable when he made advances on me. I felt being taken advantage of that he had unprotected sex with me when I was intoxicated. Nothing felt right. I remember panicking and crying. I don't want to victim blame here because this guy sounds like a grade A creep and predator. But does a person not have some responsibility h…

Yes, you are victim blaming. Men aren’t wild bears, they’re human beings who should be held accountable for their actions. How drunk someone is around another human being has nothing to do with the perpetrator’s culpability.

Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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Post by throwawayfrauds »

ezluckyfree wrote: post #24
mirekrusin wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know anything about it, but this starts to look a bit like public lynching.

no, a lynching is a murder by a racist mob this is a community realizing that John Pretty is a predator and deciding that they don't want a predator in a position of power frankly, it's weird as hell for you to be confusing those two things

That’s not what lynching is. Lynching is mob justice without a trial. The name came from Charles Lynch, who punished Loyalists during the American Revolution.

Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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Post by phildenhoff »

adflux wrote: post #12

Does this type of content really fit on this platform?

Yes. It's important that as a society we come to terms with the fact that historically, and now, a lot of people use whatever little power and fame they have to abuse others. We can't sit by and let this happen.
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