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Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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Post by reader_mode »

tmccrary55 wrote: post #23
varispeed wrote: post #14

I hate to say that, but I am likely going to buy M2 Mac. I don't like Apple and their anti-competitive tactics, but I admit they won their spot for now. However, as soon as good PC competitor comes in, I'll drop Apple like a hot potato.

I'm really hoping Alder Lake or a similar AMD product gets PC closer to M1+ performance and battery consumption. The M1 chip is amazing but I'm a tiling window manager man.

It seems like apple is TSMC priority customer so I suspect they will always be a node ahead of AMD.

Doesn't matter if Apple does mobile and low power stuff exclusively, but if they can scale this design into a higher TDP/core count it's going to get interesting.

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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Post by gpm »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #26
varispeed wrote: post #14

I hate to say that, but I am likely going to buy M2 Mac. I don't like Apple and their anti-competitive tactics, but I admit they won their spot for now. However, as soon as good PC competitor comes in, I'll drop Apple like a hot potato.

"Antitrust is okay if you have a fast processor"

"It's not my personal responsibility to attempt to enforce antitrust against companies by boycotting them at significant personal expense".

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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Post by barbazoo »

rvz wrote: post #8

Even earlier than expected. Perhaps my suspicion to skip M1 to go for M2 was completely right. It doesn't hurt to wait a little or perhaps skip the first gen versions due to the extremely early software support at the time, rather than getting last year's model (Nov 2020) and suffering from the workarounds and hacks to get your tools or software working on Apple Silicon. I won't have a wobbly software transition unli…

That link is just an ad for a service called Backflip. What does that have to do with this?

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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Post by jdauriemma »

dieortin wrote: post #15
matsemann wrote: post #13

Is anything known about the chip? The deal breaker of M1 (for me) as it currently stands is the amount of RAM it can handle (16 GB). Edit: Mistyped 16 as 1, sorry about the confusion

I think you mean 8GB?

I own an M1 Macbook Air with 16GB of RAM

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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Post by mikece »

hajile wrote: post #17
mikece wrote: post #3

While this news is about "a rumor according to sources familiar with the matter" it's obvious that Apple will be doing this at some point. Whether it's the M2 or if there will be a new letter designator (X-series silicon for eXtreme performance? Apple X1?) I am very interested to see what the performance numbers will be for an ARM-powered workstation rocking 16 to 32 high power cores. Aside from the Ampere eMAG, is a…

M2 seems very unlikely to me because that will create product misinformation easily. Imagine the following M1 -- 4 A14 cores M2 -- 8 A14 cores M3 -- 4 A15 cores That "third generation" sounds better, but is actually inferior to the second generation. X1 or M1x seem much more likely. It's the same reason why they made an A12x instead of calling it A13. They probably need 3 designs, but economies of scale begin to be a…

I always assumed the "M" in the M1 designation meant "mobile" and that higher-powered (in terms of processing, electricity, and heat dissipation) would be coming later and have a different letter designator. Either that or we'll get Air/Pro suffixes to the chip numbers (eg: M1 Pro, M2 Air...)

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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Post by kristofferR »

spamizbad wrote: post #25
enraged_camel wrote: post #11

Is Apple going to be affected by the chip shortages we have been hearing about?

Probably not since they likely didn’t scale back their orders in 2020.

I had to wait a month to get my Macbook Air M1 here in Norway.

Was quite a painful wait (as my Macbook 12' got water damage, with the SMC limiting in to 1Ghz).

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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Post by totalZero »

enraged_camel wrote: post #11

Is Apple going to be affected by the chip shortages we have been hearing about?

Nikkei says they have already postponed some Mac and iPad production. Not sure how reliable that story is, but so far it doesn't look like customer orders are at all delayed. I bought a nonstandard one when this article came out, and they delivered it a week ahead of schedule.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Tech/Semiconductors/MacBook...

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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Post by mortenjorck »

This would be quite an accelerated timeline if Apple ships its second-generation M-series chip only eight months after the first. Typically, they’ve followed a sort of six-month tick-tock pattern for the A-series, launching a new major revision in the fall with the new iPhone, and launching an “X” revision in the spring with new iPads.

I think most observers have been expecting an “M1X” for Apple's first pro-oriented ARM Macs, so an M2 already would be a surprise.

Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac

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Post by postalrat »

sneak wrote: post #9
gregoriol wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every generation is "the fastest ever made". The question is more: will this one be the Pro version?

I didn't mean just Apple. I just meant the fastest laptop money can buy.

The fastest laptop money can buy has always been available. I guess this is the first time you are considering buying one?
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