Is Apple going to be affected by the chip shortages we have been hearing about?
Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac
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Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac
#12If Apple is having this kind of success, it seems they should look to compete in the data center with this or the following generation of chips. I wonder if it is a good time to invest in Apple.
I doubt that they would bother with the 2nd coming of macOS Server for anything other than Apple shops.
Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac
#13Is anything known about the chip? The deal breaker of M1 (for me) as it currently stands is the amount of RAM it can handle (16 GB).
Edit: Mistyped 16 as 1, sorry about the confusion
Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac
#14I hate to say that, but I am likely going to buy M2 Mac. I don't like Apple and their anti-competitive tactics, but I admit they won their spot for now.
However, as soon as good PC competitor comes in, I'll drop Apple like a hot potato.
Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac
#15Is anything known about the chip? The deal breaker of M1 (for me) as it currently stands is the amount of RAM it can handle (16 GB). Edit: Mistyped 16 as 1, sorry about the confusion
I think you mean 8GB?
Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac
#16I know a lot of people waiting for this one, myself included. Here's hoping Asahi Linux is ready around then! I'm guessing the 2021 MacBook Pro is going to be the fastest laptop ever made.
Every generation is "the fastest ever made". The question is more: will this one be the Pro version?
Surely not every mbp has been the fastest laptop ever made. Has this in fact at any given point in time actually been true?
This could be it tho, but there are probably some desktop TDP chip current gen laptops out there.
Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac
#17While this news is about "a rumor according to sources familiar with the matter" it's obvious that Apple will be doing this at some point. Whether it's the M2 or if there will be a new letter designator (X-series silicon for eXtreme performance? Apple X1?) I am very interested to see what the performance numbers will be for an ARM-powered workstation rocking 16 to 32 high power cores. Aside from the Ampere eMAG, is a…
M2 seems very unlikely to me because that will create product misinformation easily. Imagine the following
M1 -- 4 A14 cores
M2 -- 8 A14 cores
M3 -- 4 A15 cores
That "third generation" sounds better, but is actually inferior to the second generation. X1 or M1x seem much more likely. It's the same reason why they made an A12x instead of calling it A13.
They probably need 3 designs, but economies of scale begin to be a problem. A14 and M1 are now selling in the millions, so they get a huge benefit. More importantly, they are in devices that get replaced a bit more frequently.
M1x (8-16 cores) will be in bigger iMac and laptops. They don't sell nearly as many of these. In addition, yields on the larger chip will be lower. Finally, people with these devices tend to keep their machines longer than phones, tablets, or cheaper laptops.
The 16-64-core chips are a major potential headache. If they go chiplet, then no big problem (actually, the M1x as two M1 chiplets seems like a desirable direction to head). If it is monolithic, the very limited sales and production will drive prices much higher. A logical way to offset this would be bigger orders with the excess being sold to Amazon (or others) to replace their mini cloud, but that's not been mentioned publicly.
Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac
#18If Apple is having this kind of success, it seems they should look to compete in the data center with this or the following generation of chips. I wonder if it is a good time to invest in Apple.
What's in it for Apple? I'm not trying to be glib, here, but unless there were some Mac only server functionality, nobody would buy an Apple ARM powered datacentre machine.
Re: Apple's follow-up to M1 chip goes into mass production for Mac
#19If Apple is having this kind of success, it seems they should look to compete in the data center with this or the following generation of chips. I wonder if it is a good time to invest in Apple.
I think if they ever released the servers, they would want a total control over what you run on them, so you couldn't just upload your service, Apple would have to approve it first.