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Re: Tesla Q1 2021 Results

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Post by CyberDildonics »

arcticbull wrote: post #204
CyberDildonics wrote: post #196

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Your link stated that the core of securities fraud is about making false positive statements about a company or stock. His statements were not false and not about a company or stock. It is debatable if they were even positive. Even your quote is only saying they wouldn't convert to USD and no time frame is given. There is no "exception" here. > It’s interesting that you once again accuse people of not knowing what th…

> His statements were not false and not about a company or stock. It is debatable if they were even positive. Correct, it's not about a company or a stock, which is something I led with in my initial reply ("In any other asset class this would be..." -- which I have since learned applies unevenly to security types although for the record I was talking about stock). I haven't said he committed a crime, and I do not be…

> I think it's pretty distasteful however to take advantage of the crypto community he claims to champion.

That's not what I replied to. You said it was a pump and dump and blatant illegal market manipulation.

> Your claim he's not actively working them into a froth is certainly at best a generous take. [1]

This is a lie and another hallucination since I never said anything even remotely close to this. You said it was 'blatant illegal market manipulation' and I showed you that what you linked contradicts that explicitly.

> However, your characterization is once again neither charitable, nor particularly civil.

lol, you literally lied and invented something I never said.

Re: Tesla Q1 2021 Results

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Post by CyberDildonics »

oblio wrote: post #330
CyberDildonics wrote: post #155

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Cryptocurrency is not a stock and lots of people make predictions and bold statements about other things like gold and silver. Nothing here would be significant if the other side of the equation wasn't people soaking up the slightest drip of nonsense and turning it into a frenzy of something they don't understand.

> Nothing here would be significant if the other side of the equation wasn't people soaking up the slightest drip of nonsense and turning it into a frenzy of something they don't understand. But people do, and that's why we have laws against crooks and scams. Just because people are stupid, exploiting their stupidity doesn't make you less of a criminal. In the case of crypto, the laws haven't caught up yet, and they…

Announcing that your company accepts a currency is not 'blatant and illegal market manipulation' or a pump and dump or a scam no matter how ridiculous people's reaction is.

No matter how upset you are, this is just a question of legality.

Re: Tesla Q1 2021 Results

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Post by bradfa »

11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #440
nixass wrote: post #423

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Why is Model 3 even considered as a premium? What makes it premium comparing to established German holy trinity (BMW, Merc, Audi)? It's average car at best, and with its notorious build quality standards it's not even an average.

As noted elsewhere, I've put 70,000 miles on my Model 3. After driving a 328i for 20 years, the Tesla is more fun in every way. As for build quality, my maintenance so far is $850 for a windshield. Cuz... I drive it so fast all the time, pebbles chipped away at it until it cracked down the middle. That's it. I can also attest that operating costs are 1/4 the BMW. Energy costs, yes, but also $0 for brake pads (I'm at…

You should still change the brake fluid every few years. I don't know what Tesla recommends but most car manufacturers recommend brake fluid flushes every 2-5 years (the Germans generally recommend 2 year intervals, GM generally recommends 5 year intervals, the Japanese brands seem to recommend 3 year intervals).

DOT 3, 4, and 5.1 fluid will absorb water on purpose and disperse it throughout the fluid. Over time if you do not flush out this water-contaminated fluid it'll start to cause corrosion inside the brake system.

Re: Tesla Q1 2021 Results

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Post by AlgorithmicTime »

yarcob wrote: post #417
chrisseaton wrote: post #382

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> they have no family cars Why can’t you use a Tesla for a family car? Most of them have four seats. What else do you need for most families?

With "family car" I meant something like the VW Touran. A somewhat affordable car that still has enough space for all the stuff you might want to take along, like strollers, backpacks, scooters, kid bikes, skis, helmets, boots whatever. (Not all of that at the same time obviously) There isn't really a great EV in that category yet, but I hope it's just a question of time. Obviously you can use any car as a family car…

VW doesn't sell the Touran in the US.

Re: Tesla Q1 2021 Results

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Post by dagw »

seunosewa wrote: post #457
dagw wrote: post #347

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Examples: IBM with IBM PC And we all know how many IBM PCs IBM has sold over the past decade. I think that IBM might actually be the most apt analogy for Tesla. 20 years from now Tesla will be a niche player in the market they built basically from scratch.

Why? Which companies will be the main players in that scenario?

VW, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Geely perhaps? Or some other Chinese company we haven't really heard of yet?. I don't see Tesla turning itself into the sort of company that can (or wants to) successfully compete in the top 5 carmakers by volume or revenue. I think they'll be happiest playing in the high performance niche and leave making the EV Corolas and Polos of the world to Toyota and VW

All that being said, I'm far from confident enough in this prediction be to be actively betting against Tesla.

Re: Tesla Q1 2021 Results

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Post by vardump »

vardump wrote: post #251
joakleaf wrote: post #232

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By that reasoning, shouldn’t the fastest living beings move around on wheels instead of legs? Just because something works for evolution/nature, it doesn’t mean that there isn’t a simpler/better engineering alternative. We have spend hopelessly many years trying to build machines that walk — Now Boston Dynamics seem to be there. But it is really complicated compared to wheels, and their machines are not running at 2-…

Birds do exist and can reach speeds up to 200 mph (320 km/h).

Someone disputes that birds can fly fast and do visual navigation?

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Post by gonzo41 »

deanak wrote: post #467
chrisseaton wrote: post #387

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I don’t really get what you mean, sorry? Why does a family need different wiper controls to a single person? And obviously you can put people and things in a Tesla.

So the person responsible for keeping their family alive doesn't look away from the road trying to perform a very common task. A car is designed around the idea that maintaining the driver's attention on the road is the primary function. I am not sure what is driving the design of Teslas for the newer models. I like Teslas in general, but their decision to remove things like buttons and stalks from their vehicles is…

There's a really great video about the cockpit design of fighter aircraft. Basically, everything is color coded and feel the same in every plane to avoid mistakes like what telsa is introducing.

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Post by _ph_ »

jgalt212 wrote: post #446
_ph_ wrote: post #318

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For two basic reasons: - the home owner owns the roof top and it is already there and unused, for a solar farm, the energy company needs to find and acquire land. - the home owner uses most of the produced electricity at cost rate, a grid company has a lot of additional costs a home owner does not have, like operating a grid, ensuring service 24x7.

land is cheap. especially in the desert where there's lot of sun, and not much else.

"Not much else", like no customers for the electricity produced? /s. Yes, there are regions for example in the US, where putting up solar cells would be very cheap. But then you have to run power lines to where your customers are. That can be 1000 kilometers or more. Doable, but that certainly affects the economy of things. And yes, I think the US should put large solar farms into its deserts. And of course, there are countries, where land is not cheap and there might not even be deserts. Here in Germany for example, basically all land is somehow used.

Re: Tesla Q1 2021 Results

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Post by lofi_lory »

simonh wrote: post #352
pyrale wrote: post #271

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And they'll produce more cars than there are atoms in the universe before the end of this century.

If the singularity happens on schedule they'll all be paperclips long before then.

Now I imagine God looking into the petri dish watching car and paperclip forming entities fighting each other over the measured resources of the experimental culture medium, seeing the beauty of balancing forces, having naturalistic fallacies touch him where he likes to be touched, a lot.
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