I wonder if anyone has tried to make a search engine that explicitly refuses to index any page that has a third party advertising thing anywhere on it. Ignoring the (interesting) technical implementation of such a thing, what would the results look like?
We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
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Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#22amazing quotes: > Larry Page and Sergey Brin were originally pretty negative about search engines that sold ads. Appendix A in their original paper says: we expect that advertising-funded search engines will be inherently biased towards the advertisers and away from the needs of theconsumers and that we believe the issue of advertising causes enough mixed incentives that it is crucial to have acompetitive search engi…
I guess the prospect of literally a hundred billion dollars each made them reconsider.
Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#23amazing quotes: > Larry Page and Sergey Brin were originally pretty negative about search engines that sold ads. Appendix A in their original paper says: we expect that advertising-funded search engines will be inherently biased towards the advertisers and away from the needs of theconsumers and that we believe the issue of advertising causes enough mixed incentives that it is crucial to have acompetitive search engi…
I guess growing up is when you give in to profit above all.
Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#24> When your elected government snoops on you, they famously prefer the metadata https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/30/nsa-americans-... of who you emailed, phoned or chatted to the content of the messages themselves. It seems to be much more tractable to flag people of interest to the security services based on who their friends are and what websites they visit than to do clever AI on the messages they send. Once they're flagged, a human can always read their email anyway.
But isn't that at least partly due to legal issues, like the pen-register precedents in the US?
Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#25This seems it will be applied to self driving technology in a huge way. All of these companies doing advanced AI vision detection, classification etc... they’re really hard problems. But the whole challenge will eventually become nullified when every single road sign, landmark, and the road itself are tagged internally with metadata. Instead of trying to decipher how does this PNG of a speed limit sign translate into…
I wonder if it would be cheaper for all these companies to go and pay for a sticker/stamp of some kind put on all the signs in a city. Figure out a standard and put them everywhere. This would give them time to get the AI vision detection algorithms figured out.
what's the point of putting it on the signs
when you can create virtual sign map that every city/road maintenance HAS to update?
Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#26The commercial opinion bit is incredibly annoying. Ask for an opinion and you’ll get 5 pages of custom built “review” sites that offer nothing useful besides copious ads and paid click-through to Amazon. Even when Google knows where I go with my searches, they still refuse to show those sites for anything that might have commercial interest. So much for customized search. I get tired of being the product. Can we get…
Brave is releasing one soon.
Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#27> There are woolly intimations that self driving cars will read roadsigns to work out what the speed limit is for any stretch of road but the truth seems to be that they use the current GPS co-ordinates to access manually entered data on speedlimits. I actually didn't know Tesla cars relied on GPS + map data w/ speed limits until recently. What a disappointment, apparently it causes all sorts of issues with sudden br…
Maybe it uses both? My Honda can tell me the speed limit, and I'm sure it's not using the internet to do it.
There's no reason it couldn't have them stored locally. If your car has an on-screen map, it's probably been downloaded to the car directly like standalone GPS units popular years ago.
Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#28amazing quotes: > Larry Page and Sergey Brin were originally pretty negative about search engines that sold ads. Appendix A in their original paper says: we expect that advertising-funded search engines will be inherently biased towards the advertisers and away from the needs of theconsumers and that we believe the issue of advertising causes enough mixed incentives that it is crucial to have acompetitive search engi…
I sometimes ask myself if they are looking back and questioning all the little decisions they took and think, "where did we go wrong"?
Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#29An annoying example which has gotten worse recently is recipes. I generally trawl through 5k words of someone's life story and product promotions to get to the piece of information I need, and they often rewrite the recipe 5 different times in different levels of detail -- is this because to make the first page rank on Google you need to pad out the SEO? I too always find myself doing site:reddit.com.
Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#30This seems it will be applied to self driving technology in a huge way. All of these companies doing advanced AI vision detection, classification etc... they’re really hard problems. But the whole challenge will eventually become nullified when every single road sign, landmark, and the road itself are tagged internally with metadata. Instead of trying to decipher how does this PNG of a speed limit sign translate into…
> But the whole challenge will eventually become nullified when every single road sign, landmark, and the road itself are tagged internally with metadata Including every pothole, pedestrian, stray deer, abandoned shopping cart and fallen tree branch?
What about collaboratively tagging drivers with metadata - I suspect that could be pretty useful... ;-)