We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
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Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#2> There are woolly intimations that self driving cars will read roadsigns to work out what the speed limit is for any stretch of road but the truth seems to be that they use the current GPS co-ordinates to access manually entered data on speedlimits.
I actually didn't know Tesla cars relied on GPS + map data w/ speed limits until recently. What a disappointment, apparently it causes all sorts of issues with sudden braking/acceleration when the map data is wrong.
Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#3The commercial opinion bit is incredibly annoying. Ask for an opinion and you’ll get 5 pages of custom built “review” sites that offer nothing useful besides copious ads and paid click-through to Amazon.
Even when Google knows where I go with my searches, they still refuse to show those sites for anything that might have commercial interest. So much for customized search. I get tired of being the product. Can we get a subscription search engine that’s actually good? I’d pay for that.
Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#4> There are woolly intimations that self driving cars will read roadsigns to work out what the speed limit is for any stretch of road but the truth seems to be that they use the current GPS co-ordinates to access manually entered data on speedlimits. I actually didn't know Tesla cars relied on GPS + map data w/ speed limits until recently. What a disappointment, apparently it causes all sorts of issues with sudden br…
Ten year old SAABs (it went bankrupt 10 years ago) read roadsigns.
Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#5This seems it will be applied to self driving technology in a huge way.
All of these companies doing advanced AI vision detection, classification etc... they’re really hard problems. But the whole challenge will eventually become nullified when every single road sign, landmark, and the road itself are tagged internally with metadata.
Instead of trying to decipher how does this PNG of a speed limit sign translate into a number, the number metadata would be encoded in the sign.
Looking at it this way, having advanced vision AI tech is only a competitive advantage in the short term
Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#6amazing quotes:
> Larry Page and Sergey Brin were originally pretty negative about search engines that sold ads. Appendix A in their original paper says:
we expect that advertising-funded search engines will be inherently biased towards the advertisers and away from the needs of theconsumers
we believe the issue of advertising causes enough mixed incentives that it is crucial to have acompetitive search engine that is transparent and in the academic realmRe: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#7This seems it will be applied to self driving technology in a huge way. All of these companies doing advanced AI vision detection, classification etc... they’re really hard problems. But the whole challenge will eventually become nullified when every single road sign, landmark, and the road itself are tagged internally with metadata. Instead of trying to decipher how does this PNG of a speed limit sign translate into…
The difficulty is getting the kid playing in the road to correctly encode their metadata; not so much the posted signs.
Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#8This seems it will be applied to self driving technology in a huge way. All of these companies doing advanced AI vision detection, classification etc... they’re really hard problems. But the whole challenge will eventually become nullified when every single road sign, landmark, and the road itself are tagged internally with metadata. Instead of trying to decipher how does this PNG of a speed limit sign translate into…
> But the whole challenge will eventually become nullified when every single road sign, landmark, and the road itself are tagged internally with metadata
Including every pothole, pedestrian, stray deer, abandoned shopping cart and fallen tree branch?
Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#9This seems it will be applied to self driving technology in a huge way. All of these companies doing advanced AI vision detection, classification etc... they’re really hard problems. But the whole challenge will eventually become nullified when every single road sign, landmark, and the road itself are tagged internally with metadata. Instead of trying to decipher how does this PNG of a speed limit sign translate into…
My car already does a pretty good job of showing the speed limits (and it's definitely based on computer vision/ works offline and in places where map metadata is poor). And it doesn't have "self driving", just a limited "pilot assist".
Not sure why reading road signs is used as and example of "extremely hard thing to do" - there are other way harder things that cars can't currently do. E.g. figuring out the right speed to negotiate a curve using computer vision alone (without relying on detailed maps/gps, ie "metadata").
Re: We were promised Strong AI, but instead we got metadata analysis
#10I wonder if anyone has tried to make a search engine that explicitly refuses to index any page that has a third party advertising thing anywhere on it. Ignoring the (interesting) technical implementation of such a thing, what would the results look like?