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Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by gman83 »

pier25 wrote: post #263
tomComb wrote: post #90

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The full sentence is about them being able to take advantage of Wayland automatically. It appears to me that you've clipped the quote to change the meaning.

This is the full quote: > Firefox, OBS Studio and many applications built with Electron and Flutter take advantage of Wayland automatically, for smoother graphics and better fractional scaling. It implies that there are already many application built with Electron and Flutter. My question is simply: what Flutter applications?

Presumably the new Ubuntu installer being built with Flutter:

https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-desktop-installer

Not sure if that's already in this version.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by tarsinge »

fiberoptick wrote: post #140
Koffiepoeder wrote: post #132

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To be honest I'm not a fan of this. Linux was one of the few ways to stay free of the behemoth of corporate, invasive crapware that is forced upon employees. By evolving towards a full enterprise managed OS (with stuff like AD) this freedom will more and more be corrupted.

Well, at companies that actually care about 100% rollout of "corporate, invasive crapware" on computers that _they own_ and that are used to process _company data_ and access _company resources_, the alternative is usually just to ban Linux workstations altogether. I see this as a strict improvement for adoption of Linux workstations in the corporate world

This or everything in web apps in a browser, pick your poison.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

derefr wrote: post #190
mikkelam wrote: post #179

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This is actually incredible. I can't believe it's this hard to get your hands on their most important product. I can totally imagine this costing several would-be-users

I feel like at this point, Ubuntu Desktop is actually something downloaded more by OEM integrators than by individuals. More and more, the people who want a computer that has good Linux support, can just buy a computer that ships with an OEM Linux install. And that Linux installation is usually Ubuntu! (Mind you, there are plenty of “retail” installs of Ubuntu — but individuals will often just upgrade Ubuntu to a new…

Hmm, I would have thought that a lot of people 'looking for a server image' would be spinning up a VM from a cloud provider, who probably doesn't yet offer the newest version? Of course, depending on how disposable your server will be, you may not want the newest, I wouldn't generally use any non-LTS versions in production, but maybe that's just me.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by nix23 »

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #110
moistbar wrote: post #49

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Yes, but only if you submit your code to Snapcraft. There's no way to host your own repository.

How so? https://ubuntu.com/blog/howto-host-your-own-snap-store

In fact, Bret Barker has published an open source (Apache License) SNAP store on GitHub. We’re already looking at how to flesh out his proof-of-concept and bring it into snapcore itself.

https://github.com/noise/snapstore/

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by intergalplan »

CrazyPyroLinux wrote: post #267
intergalplan wrote: post #240

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> That's because there is no such thing as "wayland" actually running on your machine -- it's simply a protocol for compositors and applications to talk to each other. "Wayland" is also an implementation. The protocol and implementation share a name. By the look of things, Gnome does indeed require it (that is, various "libwayland" packages) on Ubuntu.

(I'm not the one who downvoted you, so have an upvote, but) I think they renamed their reference implementation to "Weston" to differentiate it from the Wayland spec/interface. Gnome implements its own, as does KDE, as does Sway. But I'm a simple person, and in my eyes even bare Weston is "good enough" in that "startx" sort of way...

They have a compositor named Weston, yes, but then what is libwayland, on which Gnome (and others) depend?

Wikipedia:

> Wayland is a communication protocol that specifies the communication between a display server and its clients, as well as a C library implementation of that protocol.

That's the C library also named Wayland and made by the people guiding the Wayland spec on which Gnome depends, no? Or are there three things going by the name Wayland, one of them not actually associated with the Wayland project?

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by nix23 »

barbiturique wrote: post #251
regularfry wrote: post #74

I put the beta on an AMD Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 yesterday. The thing's slick as hell. As far as I can tell so far, everything just works. Apropos of which, does anyone know why trackpad interfaces are an area of active change? It really surprised me when the trackpad got disabled by closing and opening the lid on 20.10. I naively think of trackpad hardware as mostly a solved problem.

you would be surprised, I'm sorry for this poor comments, I have to get back to work. But last time I checked a year ago, some poor lone soul was trying to gofundme his effort to provide better drivers/firmware. Trackpad and sleep-mode are the two things I miss from windows/OSX. It's just more polished over there, specially OSX.

iOS has a pretty good Trackpad too.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

lordlimecat wrote: post #236
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #22

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FWIW, GPO templates are what I consider the minimum to call something manageable, which is most of why I want things on Active Directory. This definitely moves this into "I might introduce this to our environment" level.

The problem is that GPOs are really a terrible way to do configuration, and people (like myself) who grew up on them simply were Stockholm'd into accepting them. The moment you learn about things like Ansible, and then ask "wait, what if I want to programatically make GPOs"-- and try to do so-- you realize just how horrendously bad they are. Their permissions inheritance is terrible, so trying to do least-privelege /…

"GPOs is the worst form of policy management, except for all the others."

I've yet to see something as comprehensive, navigable, and flexible. Sure, it can be horrendously complicated, especially if you chose not to clean up the old mess, but it's still... basically better than everything else.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by nix23 »

jpace121 wrote: post #178
ASalazarMX wrote: post #146

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You should definitely go to the pain of upgrading to 21.04, since xx.04 releases get updates for 5 years instead of 6 months.

21.04 is not an LTS with 5 years of support. The latest LTS is 20.04.

True:

Ubuntu 21.04 will be supported for 9 months until January 2022. If you need Long Term Support, it is recommended you use Ubuntu 20.04 LTS instead.

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