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Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by barbiturique »

regularfry wrote: post #74

I put the beta on an AMD Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 yesterday. The thing's slick as hell. As far as I can tell so far, everything just works. Apropos of which, does anyone know why trackpad interfaces are an area of active change? It really surprised me when the trackpad got disabled by closing and opening the lid on 20.10. I naively think of trackpad hardware as mostly a solved problem.

you would be surprised, I'm sorry for this poor comments, I have to get back to work.

But last time I checked a year ago, some poor lone soul was trying to gofundme his effort to provide better drivers/firmware.

Trackpad and sleep-mode are the two things I miss from windows/OSX. It's just more polished over there, specially OSX.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by PopsiclePete »

mikkelam wrote: post #179
2pointsomone wrote: post #129

I have been following the Ubuntu homepage for about 15 years, and it's so interesting how they went from prominently promoting every CTA around downloading the desktop version, to now, where I had to spend 5 minutes trying to find a link on their site to the ubuntu.com/desktop site.

This is actually incredible. I can't believe it's this hard to get your hands on their most important product. I can totally imagine this costing several would-be-users

> on their most important product.

If Ubuntu depended on random users pointing their browsers to ubuntu.com and then clicking a download link to download and burn an ISO, they'd be long, long gone. There hasn't been any real $$$ in that since, well, forever?

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by dralley »

kbrwn wrote: post #250
dralley wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>5 years is half of the Ubuntu LTS No it isn't. Ubuntu LTS is supported for 5 years. https://ubuntu.com/blog/what-is-an-ubuntu-lts-release >An Ubuntu LTS is a commitment from Canonical to support and maintain a version of Ubuntu for five years. --- >Not saying it is a bad OS but it is no longer a free Linux operating system with long term support. Ubuntu LTS is suppored for 5 years, Debian Stable is supported for 5 y…

Ubuntu LTS has an additional 5 years of security support through Extended Security Maintenance thus giving LTS releases a full 10 year lifecycle. https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle

Which you have to pay for, just like RHEL.

>ESM is available through an Ubuntu Advantage for Infrastructure subscription for physical servers, virtual machines, containers and desktops, and is free for personal use.

https://ubuntu.com/security/esm

Note that if you click through "personal use" means "up to 3 machines" and obviously doesn't apply to infrastructure. RHEL has free "personal use" subscriptions too, except they apply to up to 16 machines.

And also:

> Initially, free subscription is available for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS only.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by kasabali »

devwastaken wrote: post #69
andag wrote: post #63

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1. You won't get a kernel update that doesn't contain zfs support, as the distro contains this. 2. Even if you install a manual kernel from outside of ubuntu you wont' brick it.. you'd just have to boot the old kernel. btrfs and zfs are.. not comparable.

It does and did, tested on 20.10. Similar stories: https://reddit.com/r/zfs/comments/hasfax/how_do_you_update_l... It's supposedly meant to "just work" but out of the box it did not. Which is a very common story with ubuntu sadly.

That link is about Debian. Debian doesn't ship zfs module and it needs to be compiled separately for each kernel version.

Ubuntu ships ZFS module in kernel package and it works without having to be compiled nor it needs header package.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by merb »

x86_64Ubuntu wrote: post #211
Spivak wrote: post #161

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Yes, but you can really tighten that privilege in practice. Yes having the ability to create computers in AD is potentially dangerous but in our deployments all the "AD Join Account" can do is create, delete, and reset computer passwords in one specific OU that new computers are moved out of once provisioned. We don't broadcast the join password and rotate it every so often but we also don't really care if it gets ou…

Hmm, I ran into the same issue too whereby I had a manual step to join the computer to the domain. I only had one computer to join, so I couldn't use anything like a real secrets solution, but I also didn't want the password to be in the Ansible files. Having an OU that computers are provisioned in, and then moved out of later on would have help me a lot.

with azure ad (even hybrid) you can let your oem make a oem autopilot domain join, thus it will be registered even bevore you have the device.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by simion314 »

Quekid5 wrote: post #230
intergalplan wrote: post #78

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I don't have a firm answer, but considering how much Wayland pushes off on the compositor (seemingly everything, nothing is ever Wayland's fault or responsibility) I'd expect that the compositor (every desktop environment or WM also needs to be a compositor, now) crashing is identical to all of Xorg crashing, not just the DE or WM under Xorg crashing.

> (seemingly everything, nothing is ever Wayland's fault or responsibility) That's because there is no such thing as "wayland" actually running on your machine -- it's simply a protocol for compositors and applications to talk to each other.

You could blame the architecture on Wayland. But I am sure in 15 years when Wayland(implementations) will have similar features and stability as Xorg it will be obsolete. I have the feeling that Wayland architecture is like it is because of incompetence and moving the problems into extensions and implementations.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by easton »

merb wrote: post #245
easton wrote: post #224

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That's still the most bizarre product decision Microsoft has made (to me) in the past 5 years. They are trying to get everyone to Azure and Azure AD, then they launch a product that is basically Citrix but 50% of the cost, with the catch that you need to still have on-prem AD to use it. What?

> 50% of the cost well that depends, the higher subscriptions include it for free.

I should of been more specific. The higher subscriptions include the licensing, so you just have to pay for compute, vs Citrix where you have to pay for Citrix Licensing, Windows Licensing, and compute.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by jamhan »

neither_color wrote: post #202
fisting wrote: post #166

I know it's meant to be a hippopotamus, but the default desktop background just reminds me of a couple of hairy testicles. https://res.cloudinary.com/canonical/image/fetch/f_auto,q_au... Definitely changing that after install, I don't want to be greeted by a giant parcel of pubes when I log in.

Do hippos even have notable amounts of hair? lmgtfm Unlike most other semiaquatic animals, hippos have very little hair. The skin is 6 cm (2 in) thick, providing it great protection against conspecifics and predators.

The codename for Ubuntu 21.04 is "Hirsute Hippo" and "hirsute" means "Covered with hair; hairy."

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by kbrwn »

dralley wrote: post #253
kbrwn wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ubuntu LTS has an additional 5 years of security support through Extended Security Maintenance thus giving LTS releases a full 10 year lifecycle. https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle

Which you have to pay for, just like RHEL. >ESM is available through an Ubuntu Advantage for Infrastructure subscription for physical servers, virtual machines, containers and desktops, and is free for personal use. https://ubuntu.com/security/esm Note that if you click through "personal use" means "up to 3 machines" and obviously doesn't apply to infrastructure. RHEL has free "personal use" subscriptions too, except…

The fact is if someone wants to run a Linux host for 10 years with security patches they can with Ubuntu. They cannot with CentOS Stream. Yes, they could switch to RHEL and pay for security patches but RHEL is a different OS than CentOS Stream.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by lazyweb »

lazyweb wrote: post #101

Anyone having issues with nextcloud client segfaulting after upgrading from 20.10 to 21.04? Running Xubuntu. Their latest AppImage seems to work though.

Replying to self, looks like it got fixed today. Got an update via apt.
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