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Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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For many, the reason to use CentOS was that it was stable and supported for 10 years. They killed that and personally I agree with the GP that they have probably killed CentOS along with it. CentOS Stream is "positioned as a midstream between Fedora Linux and RHEL". I'm not sure who this will appeal to but it's not the same group as before.

Exactly midstream between Fedora and RHEL. Who is this target audience exactly ... agree completely was not the same audience that used CentOS.

CentOS Stream is getting the exact same types of updates that it got before, just incrementally rather than bundled up into minor releases every 6 months.

The chart looks more like this:

Fedora ---------------------------------------------------------------------> CentOS Stream --> RHEL

It's definitely not "exactly midstream".

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Many years ago I have installed a 6.06 Ubuntu and was instantly charmed by the unexpected colors, unusual wallpapers and African themed sounds. Ubuntu had been my distribution of choice ever since. I'm somewhat sad that they have significantly scaled back their rich African theming since, but I still love them.

I too joined the Ubuntu/Linux community with 6.06 Dapper Drake. The Microsoft antitrust debacle was still fresh in early '06 - I was attracted to the message of "this is free, you have intrinsic value, this belongs to you by this virtue". It also turned out to be a great computing OS (wi-fi card issues notwithstanding in 2006).

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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5 to 5.5 years - the same as RHEL "full support" phase.

5 years is half of the Ubuntu LTS and the previous CentOS Linux lifecycle. This is why many consider CentOS Stream to be a significant departure from CentOS Linux. Not saying it is a bad OS but it is no longer a free Linux operating system with long term support.

>5 years is half of the Ubuntu LTS

No it isn't. Ubuntu LTS is supported for 5 years.

https://ubuntu.com/blog/what-is-an-ubuntu-lts-release

>An Ubuntu LTS is a commitment from Canonical to support and maintain a version of Ubuntu for five years.

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>Not saying it is a bad OS but it is no longer a free Linux operating system with long term support.

Ubuntu LTS is suppored for 5 years, Debian Stable is supported for 5 years, and OpenSUSE Leap is supported 5 years (as far as I can tell - the only documentation I found said "up to" 60 months).

CentOS Stream absolutely provides "long term" support.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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I certainly hope ms will drop the need for ad (in favour of azure ad) - but it's still needed for eg azure virtual desktop (you need a vm running ad - or "azure ad ds"[1] in azure parlance). A bit frustrating, as you can otherwise join a windows 10 desktop (or vm) to just azure ad for sso etc. [1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory-doma...

That's still the most bizarre product decision Microsoft has made (to me) in the past 5 years. They are trying to get everyone to Azure and Azure AD, then they launch a product that is basically Citrix but 50% of the cost, with the catch that you need to still have on-prem AD to use it. What?

> 50% of the cost

well that depends, the higher subscriptions include it for free.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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I don't think it supports AAD, just AD. You got me way too exited for a minute.

It's kind of odd that they are advertising this now just as Microsoft is trying to get everyone to ditch on-prem AD. Is it just them saying "we ship SSSD in the default install now, so you can buy support from us!", or what? Some way of signing into Ubuntu with a custom SAML provider would be very cool. Windows supports it via their "credential provider"[0] framework and Google uses that to provide sign-in for Window…

actually there is a way to support azure ad for servers: https://docs.microsoft.com/de-de/azure/virtual-machines/linu... it uses device authentiction.

sadly not for desktops, btw. you can create your own pam provider (grant_type=password) and put it into sssd (for local cache), but that does not work with 2fa.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Just opened the page and from the first sentence I had the proof that the ubuntu of Canonical is now a ghost of itself and already far down on the slippery slope... "22 April 2021: Today, Canonical released Ubuntu 21.04 with native Microsoft Active Directory integration, Wayland graphics by default, and a Flutter application development SDK. Separately, Canonical and Microsoft announced performance optimization and j…

It's a blog post. I find it fair game to focus on the shiny objects. I see your point about Microsoft and Google, at the same time, does it have to be a bad things? As long as it stays open source, and it's not `shell` capacity without the optimized code like Chromium or Android are.

What do you think of the actual release-notes ? https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/hirsute-hippo-release-notes/1...

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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How many of you upgrade day of release? Wait a little bit to see how others feel about it? or only stick to LTS?

I stick to LTS. I sometime have to update the kernel because of hardware devices or special needs. But even then, I use grub to pick witch kernel I wanna use.

Once the next LTS is out, I usually wait a few more months. I'm not a big fan of having my workstation not being able to do basic things. ( no hard feelings, I trust the process )

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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I know it's meant to be a hippopotamus, but the default desktop background just reminds me of a couple of hairy testicles. https://res.cloudinary.com/canonical/image/fetch/f_auto,q_au... Definitely changing that after install, I don't want to be greeted by a giant parcel of pubes when I log in.

It looks terrible. What were they thinking?

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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5 years is half of the Ubuntu LTS and the previous CentOS Linux lifecycle. This is why many consider CentOS Stream to be a significant departure from CentOS Linux. Not saying it is a bad OS but it is no longer a free Linux operating system with long term support.

>5 years is half of the Ubuntu LTS No it isn't. Ubuntu LTS is supported for 5 years. https://ubuntu.com/blog/what-is-an-ubuntu-lts-release >An Ubuntu LTS is a commitment from Canonical to support and maintain a version of Ubuntu for five years. --- >Not saying it is a bad OS but it is no longer a free Linux operating system with long term support. Ubuntu LTS is suppored for 5 years, Debian Stable is supported for 5 y…

Ubuntu LTS has an additional 5 years of security support through Extended Security Maintenance thus giving LTS releases a full 10 year lifecycle. https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
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