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Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by lscotte »

devwastaken wrote: post #57

I still can't reconcile zfs in the installer. There's no warnings or information upfront about how you will make your filesystem into a nice brick if you upgrade your linux kernel and forget that your filesystem has to be manually upgraded with that kernel version. Distros should not include filesystems that aren't in the kernel in their official installer. Fedora made the right decisions with btrfs. If users want zf…

This is just anti ZFS FUD and completely incorrect. Ubuntu has been shipping binary modules for ZFS for several years now. I've been running servers and laptops for a couple of years with ZFS root (laptop with native ZFS encryption). The only issue I've had is Canonical breaking GRUB hooks for encrypted ZFS root - solved via systemd-boot and EFI for me.

If you use DKMS, then you might have issues, but there's no need with Ubuntu (and other distros like Manjaro) anyway.

Btrfs is probably never the right decision - use the FS that's right for you and your workload.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by lovedswain »

lorenzhs wrote: post #114
lovedswain wrote: post #77

Are there any known surprises coming from 19.10?

Are you aware that you've been running a version that hasn't been getting updates since July of last year? If not, then having your OS actually get updates again might be a surprise. You'll have to update to 20.04 first, though, and then 20.10 before you can update that to 21.04. There's no direct update path (another known surprise, one might say). If you don't want to update every six months, just stick to the long…

The bootloader was broken for this laptop model in 19.10 and I've been deferring going through the same pain upgrading to 20.04. Totally aware of the support situation and upgrade sequence, but an unsupported machine sure beats a bricked machine

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by gideontong »

jbunc wrote: post #118

How many of you upgrade day of release? Wait a little bit to see how others feel about it? or only stick to LTS?

I stick only to LTS releases. I'm in no need for bleeding edge features, and I'd rather have a system that's much more likely to be stable.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by pacoverdi »

momothereal wrote: post #25
suby wrote: post #11

It's interesting to see Wayland enabled by default. I'm curious to know what state Wayland is in nowadays, especially regarding how well it works with Nvidia cards. The last time I tried it out was around 2017ish when Fedora enabled it by default. It was 100% not ready then as it wouldn't even boot into the desktop with my nvidia card. Is it actually ready now? Does it work with nvidia cards? Does GPU acceleration wo…

I've learned not to hold my breath on Ubuntu + Nvidia cards ever working out of the box. I've been using Pop_OS as a daily driver (distro over Ubuntu) and it works 95% of the time.

Thanks for the tip. Just tried it. Looks nice but suffers from the same problem as Ubuntu 21.04: laggy with fractional scaling.

But fractional scaling with Nvidia did not work at all before 21.04 so I guess there is progress.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by kentiko »

jagger27 wrote: post #34

Somewhat related: I’ve been using GNOME 40 on my Arch-based desktop and it’s really slick. It’s making the switch from macOS a little less painful. Looks like it didn’t make into this release. Completely unrelated: I just discovered Rofi (extensible Spotlight-ish launcher for Linux) and it’s lovely, especially when bound to Super+Space.

Is it possible to use GNOME 40 on this release of Ubuntu?

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by philliphaydon »

suby wrote: post #11

It's interesting to see Wayland enabled by default. I'm curious to know what state Wayland is in nowadays, especially regarding how well it works with Nvidia cards. The last time I tried it out was around 2017ish when Fedora enabled it by default. It was 100% not ready then as it wouldn't even boot into the desktop with my nvidia card. Is it actually ready now? Does it work with nvidia cards? Does GPU acceleration wo…

I tried it on my laptop (Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme) and it was horrible. Firefox would freeze. Kubuntu themes don’t work properly. Resizing apps would cause freezing. Switching back to x11 and it all works totally fine.

This was 2 weeks ago on kubuntu 21.04 beta.

But I’m on manjaro now and for some reason I have less issues on my laptop than I had with ubuntu 20.04.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by CraftThatBlock »

slacka wrote: post #119
CraftThatBlock wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you can always switch back to Xorg on the login screen (at the bottom right). Wayland support is getting really good these days, I'd recommend giving it a try before going back to Xorg if needed. This release is no different than any previous one for NVIDIA users

> Wayland support is getting really good these days Depends on your needs and hardware. I have an Nvidia desktop and Intel Laptop both running Arch + GNOME 40. Intel is definitely less buggy, but I still find myself switching back to X11. For example, when I needed screen sharing for work video conferencing, it only works under X11(PipeWire support was buggy at the time). Wayland/GNOME also still have issues with mou…

Have you tried PipeWire recently? Seems like there's a lot of recent development, and that screensharing now works under Wayland with newer versions.

I'm still on Xorg myself, but planning on switching to Wayland later this year once XWayland support is merged (also using NVIDIA card)

Edit: I've switched to PipeWire for Xorg with pipewire-pulse with zero issues so far.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by sbayeta »

suby wrote: post #11

It's interesting to see Wayland enabled by default. I'm curious to know what state Wayland is in nowadays, especially regarding how well it works with Nvidia cards. The last time I tried it out was around 2017ish when Fedora enabled it by default. It was 100% not ready then as it wouldn't even boot into the desktop with my nvidia card. Is it actually ready now? Does it work with nvidia cards? Does GPU acceleration wo…

Is the Wayland thing related to yesterday's announcement of WSL now supporting GUI aps?

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by 2pointsomone »

I have been following the Ubuntu homepage for about 15 years, and it's so interesting how they went from prominently promoting every CTA around downloading the desktop version, to now, where I had to spend 5 minutes trying to find a link on their site to the ubuntu.com/desktop site.

Re: Ubuntu 21.04

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Post by kingosticks »

1337shadow wrote: post #75
kbrwn wrote: post #17

Thank you to Canonical for keeping Ubuntu a free and open source operating system with long term support! With the death of CentOS (replaced by an unstable upstream of RHEL) it means a lot to the Linux community.

I fail to see how moving to a rolling release strategy results in any kind of "death", seems like FUD to me. Rolling release, trying to stick to upstream releases as closely as possible, works well with Arch Linux, I'm glad CentOS learned from Arch Linux success. DISCLAMER: I'm not even a CentOS user, but I just like what RH does and has done for "the Linux community" as you call it (I would just call it "society" bu…

For many, the reason to use CentOS was that it was stable and supported for 10 years. They killed that and personally I agree with the GP that they have probably killed CentOS along with it. CentOS Stream is "positioned as a midstream between Fedora Linux and RHEL". I'm not sure who this will appeal to but it's not the same group as before.
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