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Is it worse to kill something for food, or deny it from ever living? I think personally I think I would prefer to have lived and be killed than not lived at all. I also kind of believe that things have an essence, a soul of sorts. So eating any part of an animal is still repulsive on some level.
The possibilities with this are so exciting, as someone who eats a vegetarian diet due to environmental and moral concerns with the meat industry. It appears on their website that this is real & ready to sell. I thought large-scale lab-grown meat was still 10-20 years in the future... Does anyone know the pricing? I didn’t see anything on their website, but I feel like it must be expensive. Also, did they pick salmon…
See the comments below - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26905472 ~$200 for a 6-piece sushi roll.
Is it worse to kill something for food, or deny it from ever living? I think personally I think I would prefer to have lived and be killed than not lived at all. I also kind of believe that things have an essence, a soul of sorts. So eating any part of an animal is still repulsive on some level.
Also, it's unclear what their process is, but it's possible that these are cells cultured from a handful of fish, not lab growth from new zygotes. I'm fine with it either way, though.
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Sushi-grade isn't a thing! It's marketing. I also doubt this follows the FDA rules for flash freezing that sushi grade implies given the lack of risk for parasites.
Sushi-grade IS a thing with real fish. It means the meat has been inspected for parasites or frozen to kill them.
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See the comments below - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26905472 ~$200 for a 6-piece sushi roll.
Is there hope for some kind of law for the price steadily decreasing over time as efficiencies improve, like Moore's law for computer chips or the exponential increase of solar efficiency?
But before that happens, the process needs to be understood and not rely on rare ingredients, for which production also needs to scale up. Are there big suppliers of salmon stemcells?
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They're still highly processed products. We got used to vegetarian = healthy because for a while it meant grain, veggies and fruits. But today half of the vegetarian/vegan processed food is as bad as regular processed food. I'll take an halloumi/spinach patty burger over a beyond meat burger every day
Why are processed foods automatically bad so long as the macronutrient / sodium profile is otherwise in line?
Boy I really wish I knew more about the science here. I can't tell if it's yucky, so they don't discuss it, or if it's vapor, so they don't discuss it. That said, their photo looks like something I would at least taste! Matrix-grown meat seems to me like something that will have its place in the world, especially if the net environmental impact is favorable. So, Wild Type: more details, yo.
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It makes me question if the salmon in the photos on their website is really lab grown. If so, it is quite an achievement.
"sushi-grade" sounds like "fantastic" or any other not leverageable marketing promise. The cells I suppose must be stem cells, induced with some solution to grow into a homogenous mass of soft tissue. I'm very confused about this. Why just gimme the nutrient solution.
But not information on how it is produced. So I won't know, whether it really matches my food ideals.
I mean, how does it get produced? From real fish stem cells?
So still, there needs be dead fish in the process at some point? So how many fish do you need to kill, to produce one portion of sushi? Or can you grow forever, with one batch of stem cells? (probably not I guess)
Without knowing this and about what else is involved in the production chain, I really cannot believe such statements.
Is it worse to kill something for food, or deny it from ever living? I think personally I think I would prefer to have lived and be killed than not lived at all. I also kind of believe that things have an essence, a soul of sorts. So eating any part of an animal is still repulsive on some level.
Widespread adoption of this technology would likely lead to more total salmon lives, as wild populations recover.
