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Wildtype: Sushi-grade salmon grown from Pacific Salmon cells

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Re: Wildtype: Sushi-grade salmon grown from Pacific Salmon cells

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looks like another Beyond Meat style pump & dump

Wait, Beyond meat is one of the main meat substitutes making the rounds alongside Impossible burgers, right? If I'm not mixing up my names, what makes it a pump and dump?

If someone thinks X won't amount to anything, and is bound to fail, then it would not be a fore-gone conclusion to believe that the whole X endeavor is a pump-and-dump scheme to take money from people who don't "know" that its bound to fail. It's more of an indication of someone's opinion on a subject. I for one am rooting for Beyond and Impossible. The more food choices are available the better.

Re: Wildtype: Sushi-grade salmon grown from Pacific Salmon cells

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No mention of the nutritional value. Which is my concern with Beyond Meat as well. It's great that it's not meat from factory farming POV, but it's not nutritious food either.

Impossible burger has better nutritional profile than real meat burger.

Define better. Define real meat.

I would imagine the imitation meat patties are worse in some ways than a turkey patty.

Re: Wildtype: Sushi-grade salmon grown from Pacific Salmon cells

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"sushi-grade" sounds like "fantastic" or any other not leverageable marketing promise. The cells I suppose must be stem cells, induced with some solution to grow into a homogenous mass of soft tissue. I'm very confused about this. Why just gimme the nutrient solution.

Sushi-grade isn't a thing! It's marketing. I also doubt this follows the FDA rules for flash freezing that sushi grade implies given the lack of risk for parasites.

It would seem to be a reasonable term for "safe to eat raw". If the term is regulated, the term would have to be changed, but it does convey the right thing to the consumer.

Re: Wildtype: Sushi-grade salmon grown from Pacific Salmon cells

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No mention of the nutritional value. Which is my concern with Beyond Meat as well. It's great that it's not meat from factory farming POV, but it's not nutritious food either.

Impossible burger has better nutritional profile than real meat burger.

I heard the same about vegetable oil and margarine replacing butter 15 years ago. That didn't bode very well...

Re: Wildtype: Sushi-grade salmon grown from Pacific Salmon cells

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No mention of the nutritional value. Which is my concern with Beyond Meat as well. It's great that it's not meat from factory farming POV, but it's not nutritious food either.

What's your concern about the nutritional content of Beyond Meat? Its macros are comparable to that of the product it replaces.

They're still highly processed products.

We got used to vegetarian = healthy because for a while it meant grain, veggies and fruits. But today half of the vegetarian/vegan processed food is as bad as regular processed food.

I'll take an halloumi/spinach patty burger over a beyond meat burger every day

Re: Wildtype: Sushi-grade salmon grown from Pacific Salmon cells

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, Beyond meat is one of the main meat substitutes making the rounds alongside Impossible burgers, right? If I'm not mixing up my names, what makes it a pump and dump?

There is debate about whether their technology is truly novel or whether it is just hype as soy protein based food manufacturing is not exactly new. Their most important technological achievement appears to be the artificial heme that they were able to source from a plant origin.

There's debate about whether Apple's technologies are truly novel, that doesn't mean they aren't a good business.

Re: Wildtype: Sushi-grade salmon grown from Pacific Salmon cells

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No mention of the nutritional value. Which is my concern with Beyond Meat as well. It's great that it's not meat from factory farming POV, but it's not nutritious food either.

What's your concern about the nutritional content of Beyond Meat? Its macros are comparable to that of the product it replaces.

To replicate the mouthfeel of beef, you have to replicate all the negative qualities of the meat too. They are full of saturated fat.

Re: Wildtype: Sushi-grade salmon grown from Pacific Salmon cells

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The possibilities with this are so exciting, as someone who eats a vegetarian diet due to environmental and moral concerns with the meat industry. It appears on their website that this is real & ready to sell. I thought large-scale lab-grown meat was still 10-20 years in the future... Does anyone know the pricing? I didn’t see anything on their website, but I feel like it must be expensive. Also, did they pick salmon…

This falls into a class of bio-tech that I'm extremely excited about.

Sure, we can have rockets to Mars, but can we engineer fungii to create soil there? Can we grow food from cultures?

Will we care more about a lunar lander or the long-term results of mRNA vaccines? Can we cure Ebola, HIV, HPV, HSV and other social viruses? Not to mention the next pandemic, Malaria, etc?

I'm an aerospace engineer by day, but biotech (med/food/agri) is where the real social impact will come from over the next 100 years.

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